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Judge Jones: Ordeal 'surreal' (Federal judge in Dover evolution edict)
York Daily Record ^ | 6/23/06 | Tom Joyce

Posted on 06/25/2006 4:22:02 AM PDT by Nextrush

Early in U.S. District Judge Jones III's appearance on WITF-TV's "Smart Talk" program Thursday night, host Nell McCormack Abom asked him about the time that's passed since his brush with York County.

"It's been a surreal experience," Jones replied.

Jones rendered a decision in the Dover Area School District's "intelligent design" case in December. He ruled that former school board members were trying to introduce religious education into a public school science curriculum under the guise of teaching an alternate scientific theory.

That decision brought him international fame and recognition of both the positive and negative variety, including a mention as one of Time magazine's 100 Most Influential People, as well as one of "2005's 10 Sexiest Geeks" according to the Web site "Wired News." Right-wing pundits have also harshly criticized Jones since the decision, including Ann Coulter in her latest book......

Jones characterized his judicial decisions as circumscribed by narrow parameters based on precedent and the law. And if that brings criticism from the "punditry," Jones said, it just comes with the job...

"They would have you believe that we take a look at our benefactors politically, or we take a look at our party affiliation," he said. "That's simply not the way judges work."........

QUOTES FROM THE SHOW.......

-On accusations that the Dover decision made an "activist judge." "People term 'activist' judges they don't agree with."..........

-On Ann Coulter, who criticizes him in her new book: "We have to suffer these arrows because people will disagree with our opinions...She foments a kind of civic stupidity in my opinion."

(Excerpt) Read more at ydr.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: anncoulter; constitution; courts; creationism; crevolist; dover; education; evolution; federalcourts; godless; idjunkscience; intelligentdesign; judges; pavlovian; religiousliars; youngeartcultists
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There he goes again....the number one judicial publicity hound John Jones...."along came Jones...slow walkin Jones...slow talking Jones....along came tall lean lanky Jones.." as Ray Stevens put it years ago.

Bow down and worship Hugo Black: "Separation of church and state...separation of church and state....separation of church and state........"

1 posted on 06/25/2006 4:22:07 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

"civic stupidity"? Does he mean the liberal ideology of replacing the Bill of Rights with 'civil rights'? Sure is interesting to watch the Darwinists croon over what Darwin wrote and yet deny he said and believed what he did.

I know, I know, it is now called 'science', man doing things his way.


2 posted on 06/25/2006 4:31:55 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Nextrush
I like it. I find plenty of civic stupidity here on FR as
3 posted on 06/25/2006 4:39:34 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

And scientific stupidity is rampant! (mostly on these type of threads)...


4 posted on 06/25/2006 4:41:45 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: KeepUSfree

Thanks for the reply. It allowed me to see that my reference to my tagline was miswritten as html.


5 posted on 06/25/2006 4:45:52 AM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Nextrush
· On civics education: "We have a culture that is not plugged into current events."
If only. The Constitution was designed for a country that was not "plugged in to current events" because plugs hadn't been invented yet. We only vote every other November; the people need not be up on every cause celebre the rest of the time (nor even then).

What was the benefit of the people of the panhandle of Florida being "plugged in to current events" (being wrongly informed that their vote would not affect the outcome) just before the polls closed in their portion of Florida?


6 posted on 06/25/2006 4:49:21 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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To: Nextrush

This is the same guy who said in another (countless) interview that he relied on his liberal arts education and not his legal education to make his decision. What's really funny is that our Darwinists has tried to make this guy out to be another Scalia.


7 posted on 06/25/2006 4:56:18 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

The case certainly was good in one aspect of it. A lot more scientists are looking at Darwin as BS. Which it is.


8 posted on 06/25/2006 5:05:17 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com

Well, as I am usually considered "completely useless" it's nice to "accomplish something". So, thanks...I'm already over-achieving today! ;-)


9 posted on 06/25/2006 5:08:19 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: sgtbono2002
The case certainly was good in one aspect of it.

What the case was was a big looting of the taxpayers by the ACLU. Since the "theocratic" school board was voted out of office, the lawsuit against the taxpayers was not even necessary.

10 posted on 06/25/2006 5:12:10 AM PDT by Hacksaw (Deport illegals the same way they came here - one at a time.)
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To: Hacksaw

And he ACLU will continue to steal from the American taxpayers as long as Congress allows it.


11 posted on 06/25/2006 5:17:57 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Nextrush

I love that quote from Judge Jones. Ann Coulter is clueless when it comes to science and her latest book is an embarrasment.


12 posted on 06/25/2006 5:22:52 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

What happens when we get our judges from the PLCB ping


13 posted on 06/25/2006 5:41:36 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Hacksaw
What the case was was a big looting of the taxpayers by the ACLU. Since the "theocratic" school board was voted out of office, the lawsuit against the taxpayers was not even necessary.

The case had already been argued before the "theocratic" school board members were replaced. Closing arguments were on 11/4, elections on 11/8. You have been lied to. Wake up.

14 posted on 06/25/2006 5:48:36 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Hacksaw
Since the "theocratic" school board was voted out of office, the lawsuit against the taxpayers was not even necessary.

It was still necessary. Future school boards will know that there's a real cost to replacing scientific truth in their classrooms with discredited mythology.

15 posted on 06/25/2006 7:01:13 AM PDT by Physicist
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To: sgtbono2002

"A lot more scientists are looking at Darwin as BS. Which it is."

Oh do explain why. Just for the general entertainment level of the board...


16 posted on 06/25/2006 7:27:03 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Hacksaw
What's really funny is that our Darwinists has tried to make this guy out to be another Scalia.

What's really funny is that our creationists have tried to make this guy out to be another Hitler.

17 posted on 06/25/2006 9:06:42 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: PatrickHenry

More revisionist nonsense, Creationist-style, e.g., done showing a lack of integrity and in complete ignorance of the facts.


18 posted on 06/25/2006 9:14:08 AM PDT by balrog666 (There is no freedom like knowledge, no slavery like ignorance. - Ali ibn Ali-Talib)
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To: balrog666

I usually don't use the ping list for threads started by creationists, but this is a real news article, and it's early in the thread, and it's a slow weekend, so I'm cranking up the ping machine ...


19 posted on 06/25/2006 9:20:57 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped.
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and How to argue against a scientific theory.

20 posted on 06/25/2006 9:22:15 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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