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It's time for a North American Union
Fort Worth Star Telegram ^ | Jun. 11, 2006 | By STEVEN HILL Special to The Washington Post

Posted on 06/25/2006 6:41:38 AM PDT by baseball_fan

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To: You Dirty Rats

Ran into an article, Fox, Bush and the Canadian PM, met about this about a year ago. I'll check and see if I can find it. There is something in Nafta that forfeits our sovereignty, which is why this is happening...

No one I know has ever read the entire nafta document. That is why this is happening.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017

Here is that article. I have posted it before, and there have been other postings on FR in the last few weeks....


61 posted on 06/25/2006 8:06:01 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: television is just wrong
There is something in Nafta that forfeits our sovereignty, which is why this is happening...

Put down the one hitter and provide a source, if you can.

No one I know has ever read the entire nafta document.

Can anyone you know even spell NAFTA? I heard the NAFTA document is 1000s of pages, do you agree? Is that the problem, too long for you to read?

62 posted on 06/25/2006 8:12:08 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: sgtbono2002
This is great: And the only thing we will have to give up is our severeignty. Our identity as a nation.

And all with no real public debate, just a fait accompli by our "representatives."

When I see a think-tank piece like this I like to find out who's behind it. A visit to New America Foundation was quite revealing to me. It's headed by our old liberal friend James Fallows and board members include former head of Loral Corporation (Let's give our rocket secrets to China) Bernard L. Schwartz and the Clinton Administration money guru Laura D'Andrea Tyson among other interesting folks.

The very name New America Foundation is enough to raise my hackles.

63 posted on 06/25/2006 8:18:41 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)
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To: SamAdams76
Yeah, the way I always describe it to people is -- in any North American Union, essentially, the United States is taking over Canada and Mexico. Our country is far larger than their countries combined.

Now that it sounds that way, do you think Canada and Mexico will really be up for it?

64 posted on 06/25/2006 8:18:42 AM PDT by mhx
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To: Toddsterpatriot

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017

Have you read Nafta? I have not had the chance, but I have had a lot of conservative friends tell me there is something in there that changes the face of our nation. We are to be some kind of hub, and no longer a first rate nation. Anyhow, check out this article, and trade in your dollars. Insults to me will not make this go away.


65 posted on 06/25/2006 8:19:08 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: AmericaUnited; cripplecreek; Personal Responsibility

Sillies, he wasn't talking about population, he was talking about government bureaucracies.


66 posted on 06/25/2006 8:19:20 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Mexico won't even allow foreign investment in their oil industry.

Mexico has two classes of people, the rich and the poor. The rich aren't slipping over our borders by the tens of thousands a day to come here. Their rejects and criminals have found a more furtile ground...us.

You don't think mexico not allowing investment in their oil industry wasn't discussed at Bush, harper, and fox's meeting in March?

Isn't mexico having an presidental election soon? I think with their next election, we'll see if they start allowing foreign investment. Looks like Calderon, just might be open for that.

67 posted on 06/25/2006 8:20:06 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Caipirabob
I'm an old fashioned guy, why not just the ourrgith conquest, annexation and subjegation of Mexico?

I'm up for that. There won't be anyone in Mexico left in a few years either since they'll all be up here. So it will be easy.

68 posted on 06/25/2006 8:20:12 AM PDT by mhx
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To: Caipirabob

you might be an old fashioned guy, but we already fought the American Mexican war, they lost, now they want the land back.


69 posted on 06/25/2006 8:20:14 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017


70 posted on 06/25/2006 8:21:10 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=15017

for you too.


71 posted on 06/25/2006 8:21:58 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: edpc
This "reporter" has Cranial-Rectal Inversion.

Along with the rest of the open borders crowd. It is well documented that it didn't work in Europe, and it would be a disaster for the American middle class.

Any politician backing this mess should be ejected from his or her cushy seat in Washington.

72 posted on 06/25/2006 8:22:11 AM PDT by janetgreen
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To: television is just wrong

Posting the same link to me in 2 consectutive posts? So your short term memory is impaired. Just say no.


74 posted on 06/25/2006 8:24:51 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

uh, don't touch the stuff, got to much to live for. So stop insulting me. This is true. Just wait and see. That is why Bush will do nothing about the Border, or illegal alien problem. they are NOT illegally here, they are within their rights to cross a NON existent border.

I am sure you did not read what I posted to you.


75 posted on 06/25/2006 8:25:38 AM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: baseball_fan

I thought that a proposed NAU, inspite of all the documentation and actual behavior on the part of our government, was just a dastardly conspiracy theory. And that I should be wearing tin foil.

At least that's what I have been told over an over on this forum.


76 posted on 06/25/2006 8:28:02 AM PDT by tertiary01
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To: television is just wrong; Toddsterpatriot

TIJW, don't fall for what TP is doing. He's trying to pull you away from the subject. He and his fellow group come on these threads to do a disrupting routine. Let them talk amongst themselves.


77 posted on 06/25/2006 8:28:45 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: SamAdams76
Our intent should be to integrate Canada and Mexico into the United States by admitting them as states.

I've heard on more than one occasion that if Quebec ever "separates" from Canada, all the other Canadian provinces will promptly apply for statehood in the US.

On the other hand.... to become a state, Mexico would have to apply for statehood.

That, sir, will NEVER happen.

Mexico wants, rather, to annex California, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, Colorado, New Mexico and Texas as states in Mexico.

Remember, the ruling class in Mexico is made up of the descendents of the Conquistadores.

78 posted on 06/25/2006 8:28:48 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: television is just wrong
That is why Bush will do nothing about the Border, or illegal alien problem. they are NOT illegally here, they are within their rights to cross a NON existent border.

Huh? Their right to be here is in NAFTA?

79 posted on 06/25/2006 8:28:53 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: pbrown
found a more furtile ground

Every eight seconds a new American citizen is born, every 13 seconds an existing American citizen dies; no mention of how many illegal aliens show up or depart every second. Listening to the news is futile.

80 posted on 06/25/2006 8:29:41 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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