Posted on 06/26/2006 11:04:21 AM PDT by Bokababe
Tudjman wasn't Ustasha. He just kissed their asses and was pretty much just another idiot politician.
against the US as it has two World Wars before? Probably!
Ouch!
Good broadside shot!!
Take care,
BR
How was he an idiot? He managed to create an independent state after almost 900 years of not having one, against the odds? That certainly isn't idiotic. The idiots were the ones who ran the RSK parastate who managed to screw up so badly that they lost everything after being promised by everyone that they'd get almost everything if they just toned it down a bit.
Tudjman was not an Ustasha
Good lord, that's the most simple-minded comment you've made to date! Because he became a Nazi Croat nationalist late in life, when he could garner no more advantage from being a Marxist stooge.
Actually, he was second after the Quisling Ante Pavelich and by following all of this patterns and policies.
Sorry, but he wasn't a National Socialist. Croatian Nationalism is not Nazi. I guess logic isn't your strong suit.
Like including Serbs in government and the army? Like offering Serbs autonomy? Like instituting multiparty democracy? I guess facts really don't matter to you one bit.
Yep, about one third of their pre war total, remniscent of the Ustashi pledge to exile one third, kill one third, and convert one third.
The Croat thugs are nothing if not consistent.
...especially in the Croatian armed forces.
Conscripts, in other words, with their families held as hostage, no doubt.
Yet he wasn't one. Your weak attempts at character assassination are just that: weak. Stop being a sore loser.
Walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, Croat Ustashi = Nazis.
Who ordered pancakes?
so by fighting the Ustasha in WW2 he is an Ustasha. Yep, according to your logic, the Jews who fought the Nazis in the Warsaw Ghetto uprising are themselves Nazis. LMFAO
No, oh dim Darko, he became a Ustashi long after WW2. You read the article about him going Croat nationalist in the 70's, choke on it. LOL at the dim Ustashi!
Are you tired of embarassing yourself yet?
"Dobroslav Paraga (born December 9, 1960) is a Croatian politician.
In his early days Dobroslav Paraga used to advocate secession of Croatia from Yugoslavia and that led him to be persecuted by Communist authorities. Paraga used that persecution as an argument against Yugoslavia and its low human rights standards. Because of that he became one of the best known dissidents.
When multi-party system arrived in Croatia, Paraga initially joined Croatian Democratic Union of Franjo Tuðman. However, new party proved not to be radical enough for his taste, so he and his followers founded Croatian Party of Rights (HSP).
While Tuðman saw Croatian path of independence through negotiations with Slobodan Miloeviæ, Paraga formed the growing chorus of those who preferred direct and resolute military action against Krajina Serbs and Yugoslav People's Army. Because of that his party formed its own militia Croatian Defence Forces (Croatian: Hrvatske obrambene snage, HOS). The party militia became very noticeable for its use of black uniforms and Ustasha insignia, while Paraga himself advocated creation of Croatia that would include Bosnia and Herzegovina and large sections of today's Serbia and Montenegro.
At first, this extremism proved benefitial to Tuðman, making the hawks of his own party look mild in comparison, but as Croatian military fortunes in 1991 deteriorated, Paraga's growing popularity, together with his militia, began to look like a serious threat to Croatian government. Reaction came in the form of arrests, indictments and all kinds of intimidation towards HSP and HOS members, including some HSP members being assassinated in mysterious circumstances. This campaign gradually subsided with HOS units formally joining Croatian Army and escalation of war in neighbouring Bosnia and Herzegovina..
Paraga and HSP had high hopes of becoming the major political factor before 1992 presidential and parliamentary elections, but those hopes, despite HSP colourful rallies being well-attended, didn't materialised in desired result. HSP did enter Croatian Parliament and Paraga came fourth among presidential candidates, but it was clear that the party was far from its zenith. Another blow came in the form of high treason charges against Paraga and his associate Anto Ðapiæ, who were stripped of their parliamentary immunity.
Those charges were ultimately dropped....."
So in other words, Tudjman used Paraga to make himself and his party look "less radical" by comparison, and when Paraga got too popular, he got rid of him with indictments which were later dropped.
That's politically knocking off someone because they got in your way -- not because they are ideologically different, as you have suggested.
The fact is that Tudjman was willing to do ANYTHING and court ANYONE who could give Croatia independence. The support and money in the Croat diaspora for indpendence came from the escaped WWII Ustashe and their families. So Tudjman made a deal with the devil -- and that deal with the Ustashe will haunt Croatia for the rest of its existence.
Including making deals with Milosevic.
And yes, there is no problem in seeking help from others for the sake of independence, a wholly noble cause. This also does not make one an Ustasha.
So Tudjman made a deal with the devil -- and that deal with the Ustashe will haunt Croatia for the rest of its existence.
ROFL...Serbian hyperbole. Thanks for your "advice" but no thanks.
And this was wrong because.....?
Just admit Tudjman was an Ustashe-supporter and used their unwavering support. His denying the Serbian populace any security assurances, yet plays lipservice but turns the blindeye to all crimes against Croatian Serbs.
You double-talk and all the Intel/S2 or G2 level intel you worked in provides you with the data to double speak intelligently. Being knowledgeable with History as well. I commend you, D.
However, we both know my knowledge refutes your BS. Things are not always what they seem, D.
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