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Giuliani and History (In the age of terror, he could be the best presidential candidate available)
The American Prowler ^ | 6/27/2006 | Philip Klein

Posted on 06/26/2006 10:40:25 PM PDT by nickcarraway

With Rudy Giuliani crisscrossing the country in support of Republican candidates and raising money for his new political action committee, it is beginning to look inevitable that he will seek the presidency in 2008. Despite his lead in many early polls, skeptics still dismiss his chances of winning the Republican nomination given his personal background and liberal views on social issues. There is no doubt that these will be obstacles for Giuliani, but compared to the forces that will propel him into the White House, they are small potatoes.

"History is in motion, and those moving with it are so caught up that they cannot always see its broad outlines," Mark Helprin once wrote. Those who count out Giuliani because of the politics of abortion and gay rights have lost sight of the broad outlines of our age. The fight against terrorism is not only the defining issue of our time, but it represents an epic event in the history of Western civilization. Giuliani is the best leader available to confront the terrorist threat, which is why the course of history points to his becoming president.

Epic periods in history have a tendency to produce leaders who may have once seemed improbable. Winston Churchill was considered washed-up in the 1930s when he spoke of the rising Nazi menace. But history took its inevitable course, and by 1940 Churchill had ascended to the role of Prime Minister, because he was the ideal leader to fight Germany.

LIKE CHURCHILL, Giuliani is a survivor, a fighter, and a man of tremendous will. And just as Churchill's words guided the British public through solemn hours of German air bombardment, Giuliani became the spokesman for American resolve on the darkest day of the nation's history.

The mere fact that there is a serious debate over whether or not Giuliani could be elected is a remarkable testament to how inspired Americans were by his leadership on that day. Normally we discuss vice presidents, governors, senators or military leaders as possible presidential candidates. It is rare, if not unprecedented, for a former mayor to be considered as a presidential candidate so earnestly by so many people.

Though it has been nearly five years since Giuliani's leadership on Sept. 11, a March Quinnipiac University poll found that Giuliani was America's most popular politician. Despite his stances on social issues, a Gallup Poll earlier this month found him leading all potential Republican primary opponents. On June 13 in Manhattan, Giuliani demonstrated his fundraising potential by raking in $2 million for his new political action committee, Solutions America, in a single evening. That was twice the amount that his chief rival for the Republican nomination, John McCain, raised in New York City the day before.

Sept. 11 was not Giuliani's first brush with Islamic extremism, and in a sense, his whole career has been building toward a confrontation with terrorism. As a U.S. Attorney, Giuliani investigated the 1985 murder of Leon Klinghoffer, the Jewish New Yorker who was sitting in his wheelchair when he was thrown overboard from the Achille Lauro cruise ship by Palestinian terrorists. Giuliani dedicated a good portion of his 1994 mayoral inauguration speech to the first attack on the World Trade Center. Despite being ridiculed as paranoid, Giuliani built an emergency command center in New York City to prepare for an attack. (The center was poorly located in 7 World Trade Center, which was destroyed with the Twin Towers, but the fact that he was preparing for such threats before Sept. 11 demonstrates that Giuliani was ahead of his time.)

AS HE FOUGHT TO TRANSFORM New York City, the New York Times editorial board and liberal interest groups denounced him every step of the way. Giuliani's style of forcefully stating his position and going on the offensive during press conferences will win him the respect of conservative primary voters who are fed up with pandering Republican politicians. In fact, this may be the main factor that ends up separating him from McCain, whose reputation as a maverick has been built on taking positions that made him into a liberal media darling.

Giuliani is more than just a tough talker. Throughout his career, whether it was as a mob prosecutor, a crime fighting mayor or an entrepreneur, Giuliani has shown an ability to think creatively about solving problems. And since Sept. 11, no politician has spoken with more depth or intelligence about the nature of the terrorist threat. This will become apparent during any televised debate with Republican opponents.

Two years is an eternity in politics, no doubt. But no matter what happens between now and then, the threat of terrorism, unfortunately, will still be with us and remain the defining issue of the campaign. Given Giuliani's record of overcoming long odds, of achieving things that many people once viewed as impossible, it is startling that anybody would dismiss his chances of becoming president. Those who do so are not only severely underestimating the man, but they are misjudging the trajectory of history.

Philip Klein writes from New York. You can contact him through his website: www.philipklein.com.


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To: tkathy
Rudy would be awesome fighting the WOT, the only issue that matters

Are you for real? the WOT is the only issue that matters? He'd be pretty "awesome" in getting rid of the last vestiges of our second amendment right too. God help us if there are many people out there that think like you do.

81 posted on 06/27/2006 7:17:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: nickcarraway

Some Conservatives oppose Giuliani because they perceive that he will harm their gun rights. I disagree.

Notwithstanding. Earlier this morning I saw Wayne LaPierre on FOX and he said that the biggest danger to gun rights today is the UN.

If there is one candidate who would, and has a history, tell the UN where they can shove their aims and views, it is Rudy Giuliani.


82 posted on 06/27/2006 7:23:23 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bandar Bush in 08: Continue the Legacy)
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To: Kryptonite

What has Allen ever accomplished that puts him in the same league as Giuliani?

I don't count saying everything he knows you want to hear as an accomplishment.


83 posted on 06/27/2006 7:28:46 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bandar Bush in 08: Continue the Legacy)
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To: Fishrrman

Is Tancredo thinking of running? I wouldn't mind him running. He's pretty cool. I am voting for Giuliani in the primaries if he runs. But of course I will vote for whomever wins the primary in the general election.


84 posted on 06/27/2006 7:33:41 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: Fishrrman

LOL.

Tancredo has less name recognition than George Allen, and has often been viewed as a kook by most of the Republican establishment. No way that he'd ever win the party's nomination - ever.


85 posted on 06/27/2006 7:36:26 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Sabramerican

He's avoided cheating on his wife and ending up in divorce court.


86 posted on 06/27/2006 7:44:41 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Kryptonite
viewed as a kook by most of the Republican establishment

Don't know about "most" but his "Nuke Mecca" comment certainly didn't help him dodge the "kook" label.

On the current FR poll series he's done the best (so far) with Freepers.

87 posted on 06/27/2006 7:44:54 AM PDT by ASA Vet (3.03)
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To: Kryptonite
I want George Allen as my next President.

Fat chance.

88 posted on 06/27/2006 7:47:08 AM PDT by Jim Noble (And you know what I'm talkin' 'bout!)
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To: tkathy

Gingrich is the biggest name out there who can spark the traditional and movement conservatives in such a manner as to get the big money behind him to win in the primaries. Probably Jeb Bush too.

Give Allen some time and exposure and he'll turn out to be an even better candidate, judging from his character and what he's made of.


89 posted on 06/27/2006 7:50:01 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Kryptonite; SDGOP
Give Allen some time and exposure and he'll turn out to be an even better candidate, judging from his character and what he's made of.



I agree with you on Newt but Allen has been weak at best.< He was a good governor but once he got to Washington he drank the kool-aid and has not lead on anything. He has gone along with W and the crew and has been spending money like he hates the stuff. A fiscally liberal,semi-articulate, Southern, GOP insider won't fly in 08.
90 posted on 06/27/2006 8:19:22 AM PDT by Blackirish (Merry Fitzmas !!)
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To: Kryptonite

I'm curious if that is also your only criteria when choosing a car mechanic or plumber?

A flippant answer is the only answer possible when comparing a Giuliani to an Allen.

Funny how in 1992 Republicans made fun of the pony tail guy who asked the stupid question at the debate. Looks like some Conservatives also seek a daddy for President.

Me. I'm looking for a proven accomplished leader for troubled times


91 posted on 06/27/2006 8:21:18 AM PDT by Sabramerican (Bandar Bush in 08: Continue the Legacy)
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To: Kryptonite

ALLEN WAS DIVORCED FROM HIS FIRST WIFE.


92 posted on 06/27/2006 8:37:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: nickcarraway
“I’m pro-choice. I’m pro-gay rights,” Giuliani said. He was then asked whether he supports a ban on what critics call partial-birth abortions. “No, I have not supported that, and I don’t see my position on that changing,” he responded.

--- Source: CNN.com, “Inside Politics” Dec 2, 1999

Along with being pro-abortion, support for PBA and special rights for homo's, Giuliani's liberal credentials include support for more pro-gun control and advancing a pro-illegal immigrant policy. This is not a candidate conservatives should be supporting under any circumstance.

93 posted on 06/27/2006 8:43:27 AM PDT by Reagan Man (Secure the borders; enforce employer sanctions; stop welfare handouts to illegals)
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To: Reagan Man; nickcarraway

Giuiliani is pro-gay rights BUT NOT PRO-GAY MARRIAGE! Don't mistake the two for being the same. He believes marriage should be between a man and a woman.


94 posted on 06/27/2006 8:47:54 AM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicans Are Like Diapers - Both Need To Be Changed Often And For the Same Reason!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Moron.


95 posted on 06/27/2006 8:49:42 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: SDGOP

Would you also post a barf alert on a story about Margaret Thatcher? She voted to decriminalize homosexuality and legalize abortion.


96 posted on 06/27/2006 8:50:43 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: taxed2death
Yup.

Anti-gun and pro-illegals and Giuliani helped it.

As for his running cross country to "support" Republican candidates, the egomaniac is only "supporting" himself.

When he was mayor of New York he distanced himself from the Republican Party and supported Democrat Candidates in New York and New Jersey for governor.

Now he is just shamelessly trying to ingratiate himself with unaware Republicans nationwide so he can get the nod in the primaries.

I hope and pray for Allen, Tancredo, Pence, Kyle, Haworth, even Rice.

If McCain or Giuliani run, I will vote a protest vote for a third party conservative even if the Dems put up Lucifer himself as a candidate.

A message has GOT to be delivered to Republicans that only conservatives will get national support, not warmed over northeastern liberal RINOs.
97 posted on 06/27/2006 8:51:28 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: areafiftyone

Is there a record of him cheating on his wife?


98 posted on 06/27/2006 8:55:07 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: areafiftyone

Is there a record of him cheating on his wife?


99 posted on 06/27/2006 8:55:07 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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To: Sabramerican
Not flippant. Just a matter of character. Character matters.


100 posted on 06/27/2006 8:56:40 AM PDT by Kryptonite (Keep Democrats Out of Power!)
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