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To: mbraynard
Unless you consider humans turning themselves into irrational animals a crime.

If I did I'd have to support reinstating Prohibition. I don't ... do you?

Do not pretend that it is merely the restrictions that are causing the crime - other banned substances do not cause nearly the crime level.

Other banned substances are not as greatly desired. It remains the case that by raising the price you increase users' motivation to commit crime.

60 posted on 07/02/2006 3:13:56 PM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: Know your rights
If I did I'd have to support reinstating Prohibition. I don't ... do you?

That is a good point. A better analysis would be to say that you support making drunk driving illegal - and we are already there. Alcohol is something that has negligible effects on a human's ability to reason in small amounts. As for other drugs... we can have that discussion but I am glad you agree with my premise and support making a victim-less crime like drunk driving illegal.

Other banned substances are not as greatly desired. It remains the case that by raising the price you increase users' motivation to commit crime.

Those two sentences contradict each other. The substance is greatly desired so that the motivation to comit a crime to get the drugs is equal regardless of the price - so long as the price is out of reach. And the ability to earn a living while addicted to these drugs is zero. So legalization would not be enough - you would have to make the drugs FREE at taxpayer expense to prevent the crime associated with them.

Then there are crimes - particularly those against children - that are commited by those on the drugs regardless of their ability to afford them and that are not associated with getting money to pay for them.

Maybe take a lesson from the countries that are actually strict on drug users and notice how the problem and crimes related to them are non-existent.

Take your tired, broken 'drug war is lost' arguments to somewhere that people's reasoning is as shallow as the addicts you seek to assuage.

61 posted on 07/05/2006 9:41:54 AM PDT by mbraynard (I don't even HAVE a mustache!)
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