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House Race Hotline Extra: Utah 03 (Utah GOP Exec. Dir. says good chance Cannon could go down)
National Journal: The Hotline ^ | 27 June 2006

Posted on 06/27/2006 11:37:28 AM PDT by Spiff

House Race Hotline Extra: Utah 03 Some quotes to illustrate the importance of this race.

"There is a very good chance that he could go down," Jeff Hartley, executive director of the Utah Republican Party, tells First Read. "You wouldn't have the involvement from the White House if he weren't in jeopardy." (NBC News)

Consultant LeVarr Webb: "A low turnout is expected, so be one of the few who make a difference and have a voice." (Utah Policy Daily) )

UT GOP Chair Joe Cannon "says he's trying to stay neutral" in his brother's UT 03 primary, "but it didn't come across that way" in his online comments about challenger/alleged Satan victim John Jacob (Salt Lake Tribune).

A poll published over the weekend by the Deseret Morning News and KSL-TV, conducted by Dan Jones & Associates, found Cannon ahead — 46-33 percent among registered voters in the 3rd District. But 18 percent of voters remained undecided. "That's one of the highest 'undecideds' numbers I've seen so close to a primary election," said Jones, who has polled in Utah for more than 30 years. (Deseret News)

Jacob backtracks on his "Satan" comments: "What the [Salt Lake Tribune] reported and what I said weren't the same thing. It wasn't that [the devil] was trying to keep me out of Washington. I was just saying when you're trying to get into politics, there's a lot of adversity. … Contrary to reports of saying it was keeping me from being there, it was going to help me in training when I get there. It's not the devil; it's adversity." (Utah Policy Daily)


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; cannon; chriscannon; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; invasion; jacob; mmp; predictions; provo; satan; utah
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"There is a very good chance that he could go down," Jeff Hartley, executive director of the Utah Republican Party, tells First Read.

There sure is a good chance that Cannon will go down? Why? Well, that's because Cannon has made a career of voting for amnesty, rewards, privileges, and benefits for illegal aliens. Now that he's got a challenger with enough funds to put up a real challenge, and the word is out on Cannon's terrible record (despite his lies to the contrary) Cannon finds himself in real trouble.

What is that voting record that has so many of his consituents up in arms?

Cannon's atrocious voting record:


1 posted on 06/27/2006 11:37:31 AM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff

Grades Updated: June 23, 2006

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Reduce Enticement AMNESTIES for Illegal Immigration

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2 posted on 06/27/2006 11:40:06 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: Spiff

Cannon going down would send a resounding message to all in congress.


3 posted on 06/27/2006 11:46:33 AM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Spiff

IBTOBL


4 posted on 06/27/2006 11:53:38 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: Hydroshock

It certaintly would. It would mean that other Republican Congressman like Tancredo can now from out of state and try to defeat my sitting Republican Congressman in my district if he disagree's on this out of states congressman's pet issue. OhJoy, what a great precedent. Great thing for House Republican unity.


5 posted on 06/27/2006 11:57:35 AM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Anybody Know what time the polls opened in UTAH?

PDT


7 posted on 06/27/2006 11:59:30 AM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: catholicfreeper

It would mean the open borders and uuncontrol immigration are not popular issues with amny Americans.


8 posted on 06/27/2006 12:01:20 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: Hydroshock

What happens if Cannon wins? Does that mean that the people like the Presidents plan or something like the Pence plan


9 posted on 06/27/2006 12:03:33 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: catholicfreeper

Are President Bush and first lady Laura also "out of state"?


10 posted on 06/27/2006 12:05:11 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Spiff

Yes, but Cannon has the devil on his side, so he's assured of victory.


11 posted on 06/27/2006 12:06:00 PM PDT by Moral Hazard (If Democrats win any more moral victories in November they'll gain moral control of Congress.)
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To: catholicfreeper

When Cannon wins, and he will 53% to 47% for "the devil is out to get me" Boy, listen for the sounds of crickets from the Mexiphobe crowd on FR.


12 posted on 06/27/2006 12:07:50 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: NapkinUser

The President is the Executive. Plus he ahs been made a issue in this campaign. There is quite a difference. There is a reason that in such a place as the HOuse where you got over 200 Republicans of different views this stuff is not and cannot be done. It encourages backstabing, sniping, and mistrust among the Republican Caucus. On this close party line votes you cannot have that


13 posted on 06/27/2006 12:07:54 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Spiff
A poll published over the weekend by the Deseret Morning News and KSL-TV, conducted by Dan Jones & Associates, found Cannon ahead — 46-33 percent among registered voters in the 3rd District.

If that poll were accurate then Cannon would be a shoo-in. The fact is the only reason why they're reporting he could lose is that every other poll has it far tighter. Maybe it has something to do with likely voters instead...

14 posted on 06/27/2006 12:08:24 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: MikeA

nope it will be time to make the next open borders flunky sweats his re-election


15 posted on 06/27/2006 12:09:22 PM PDT by jneesy
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To: MikeA

SO true. I hope they leave this poorman alone for a while if he wins. Its like been a nonstop campaign against him by these elements for 4 years straight if not longer


16 posted on 06/27/2006 12:09:59 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: catholicfreeper
The fact that he is in such jeopardy is also telling. He has angered a large part of the republican base.
17 posted on 06/27/2006 12:10:22 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: jneesy
nope it will be time to make the next open borders flunky sweats his re-election

And that would be Chafee in September...

18 posted on 06/27/2006 12:10:44 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: MikeA

"When Cannon wins, and he will 53% to 47%..."

(Read my posting history for my opinion on who will win, I'm sick of writing it.)

But if that happens, it'd be pretty big considering Cannon got 58% in 2004.


19 posted on 06/27/2006 12:12:06 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Hydroshock

He is danger because radical organizations and groups have had a bulleye on him for years. That wears down anyone. Even now very conservative Mike Pence is finding how to be the target of them.


20 posted on 06/27/2006 12:12:22 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: catholicfreeper

"The President is the Executive."

And Laura Bush is what?


21 posted on 06/27/2006 12:13:03 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: NapkinUser

If the anti immigration lobby which has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Cannon for 4 years doesn't get Cannon this time and Cannon wins then this cannot be spun bythose forces as anything but a defeat for their cause. This is the first real race where is a battle of ideas among the Republicans. This race will be far more of an indicator than Bilray race was


22 posted on 06/27/2006 12:15:16 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: NapkinUser

The First Lady of the Executive Branch inpersona


23 posted on 06/27/2006 12:16:04 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: Bikers4Bush
IBTOBL

LOL!

24 posted on 06/27/2006 12:16:25 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (The Latest on the Ohio gov race http://blackwellvstrickland.blogspot.com)
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To: NapkinUser
And Laura Bush is what?

A homemaker.

25 posted on 06/27/2006 12:16:32 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: NapkinUser

Jacobs had a lot of help from outside groups running radio ads in a high decible campaign and is facing one opponent as opposed to 2 in '04. It doesn't surprise me that his vote percentage will likely be down some over 04.


26 posted on 06/27/2006 12:17:38 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: MikeA
Jacobs had a lot of help from outside groups running radio ads in a high decible campaign and is facing one opponent as opposed to 2 in '04. It doesn't surprise me that his vote percentage will likely be down some over 04.

Jacob also had to finance his own campaign while Cannon was given hundreds of thousands of dollars from pro-immigration groups.

27 posted on 06/27/2006 12:19:41 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: catholicfreeper
Even now very conservative Mike Pence is finding how to be the target of them.

It shows how insane these Mexiphobes are. Mike Pence's plan is actually very tough, but recognizes our economy cannot thrive merely on domestic labor alone. Or do the Mexiphobes want to pick fruit and clean hotel room toilets.

28 posted on 06/27/2006 12:20:00 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: catholicfreeper

"If the anti immigration lobby which has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Cannon for 4 years..."

For one, it's been two years. He is a representative, not president.

Two, show me anything against Cannon in 2005, especially early 2005. This stuff got started mostly after Jacob's surprising showing at the convention beating Cannon 52-48.


29 posted on 06/27/2006 12:22:14 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Jacob also had to finance his own campaign while Cannon was given hundreds of thousands of dollars from pro-immigration groups

LOL! I'll give you guys some credit, you don't quit until the fat lady sings.

OH BTW, you do know that jacob did blame his campaign contribution torubles on satan.

30 posted on 06/27/2006 12:22:20 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: catholicfreeper
If the anti immigration lobby which has thrown everything but the kitchen sink at Cannon for 4 years doesn't get Cannon this time and Cannon wins then this cannot be spun bythose forces as anything but a defeat for their cause.

They've spent $50,000.

How much is a Presidential endorsement worth? Free use of his voice in radio ads and phone recordings? Hundreds of Thousands of dollar? Millions? Priceless?

That doesn't include the massive cash infusion from the pro-illegal alien lobby that Cannon has been receiving in this bellweather election.

Maybe they could spare a few dollars to help you buy a clue.

31 posted on 06/27/2006 12:22:53 PM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: catholicfreeper

"The First Lady of the Executive Branch inpersona"

I guess I wasn't aware her name was on the ballot.


32 posted on 06/27/2006 12:22:57 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

"Jacob also had to finance his own campaign while Cannon was given hundreds of thousands of dollars from pro-immigration groups."


That wasn't really my point. My point was I won't be surprised if Cannon's vote total is down over 04 because of the national attention given this race and the in kind contributions of soft dollar money ads on Jacobs' behalf.

By the way, looking at your Freeper name, you do realize Reagan was very pro-immigration don't you?? Would you guys have been targetting Reagan for primary defeat too?? Cannon is pretty much right in step with Reagan's thinking on immigration and guest worker plans, like it or not. I have the quotes to prove it if you like.


33 posted on 06/27/2006 12:23:26 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting in November because you're pouting is a vote for Nancy Pelosi for Speaker of the House)
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To: Spiff

"How much is a Presidential endorsement worth? Free use of his voice in radio ads and phone recordings? Hundreds of Thousands of dollar? Millions? Priceless?"

One newspaper is saying $136,000. As opposed to Team America's $40,500.


34 posted on 06/27/2006 12:23:52 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Dane

I would rather have Old Scratch himself in that seat then an open border pro amnesty politician.


35 posted on 06/27/2006 12:25:12 PM PDT by Hydroshock ( (Proverbs 22:7). The rich ruleth over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender.)
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To: MikeA

"Mexiphobes"

Are you 100% sure DemocraticUnderground wouldn't be a better forum for you?


36 posted on 06/27/2006 12:26:21 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: NapkinUser
One newspaper is saying $136,000. As opposed to Team America's $40,500.

$40,500 that could have been used against RINO Chris Shays.

Oh that's right tancredo/bay buchanan have a fetish of campigning against 100% ACU congressman such as Chris Cannon, bevermind.

37 posted on 06/27/2006 12:26:33 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: MikeA

True, The difference is with Mike Pence also is that this mightbe somebody going for higher office and has quite a backing. I think they mesed with the wrong person there and by people calling him a rino etc


38 posted on 06/27/2006 12:26:38 PM PDT by catholicfreeper (I am Blogging for the GOP and Victory O6 at www.theponderingamerican.blogspot.com)
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To: MikeA

Probably the one policy where Reagan was flawed. His amnesty gave us the nightmare we have today.

We should have rounded up all the illegals back then shipped them out and built the wall, we didn't and the problem is ten times worse today.


39 posted on 06/27/2006 12:26:51 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: catholicfreeper; MikeA
If the anti immigration lobby

Wrong. The anti-ILLEGAL-immigration lobby.

Boy, listen for the sounds of crickets from the Mexiphobe crowd on FR.

Wrong. The anti-illegal-immigration crowd on FR.

Why do y'all insist on distorting the debate? To disguise that you are calling for rewarding lawbreakers?

40 posted on 06/27/2006 12:28:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Dane
OH BTW, you do know that jacob did blame his campaign contribution torubles on satan.

Did I lose something in the translation? You're not denying that Cannon received hundreds of thousands of dollars from pro-mass immigration/amnesty groups are you? You only want to rant about Buchanan's democratic right to participate while conveniently ignoring that little tidbit.

41 posted on 06/27/2006 12:28:56 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Hydroshock
I would rather have Old Scratch himself in that seat then an open border pro amnesty politician.

You do know that Jacob is pro-amnesty, right?

42 posted on 06/27/2006 12:29:34 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: catholicfreeper
He is danger because radical organizations and groups have had a bulleye on him for years.

Oh, so poor Cannon is a victim, "worn down" by those meanie radical organizations?

Every other observer plainly sees that Cannon is in trouble because he has become the amnesty poster boy, and as such is out of step with his conservative district. The only reason you are defending him is because he has helped facilitate the flow of illegals.

It is so lame when the FROBL trots out all these strawmen, and denies the Cannon record when that record is the only reason they support him.

Just come out and admit that you like Cannon for the same reason the immigration lawyers like him. Step out from behind the strawman, it'll be okay.

43 posted on 06/27/2006 12:30:29 PM PDT by Plutarch
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To: dirtboy
To disguise that you are calling for rewarding lawbreakers?

You do know that Jacob advocates breaking immigration law, right?

44 posted on 06/27/2006 12:31:16 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Did I lose something in the translation?

uh no you didn't, John Jacob blamed his lack of campaign funds due to satan.

45 posted on 06/27/2006 12:31:34 PM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
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To: Dane
Chris Shays has a B from Americans for Better Immigration as opposed to Chris Cannon's F- (as posted in this thread.)
46 posted on 06/27/2006 12:33:49 PM PDT by NapkinUser (Can Chris Cannon. Go here: www.electjohnjacob.com/)
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To: Dane

Could somebody ping me to tonight's (or tomorrow's) inevitable "John Jacob won even though he lost" thread?


47 posted on 06/27/2006 12:34:08 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: NapkinUser

It is extremely unusual for a President to get involved in a local GOP primary race.


48 posted on 06/27/2006 12:34:30 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: NapkinUser

"F-" LOL!

As if an "F" isn't enough of failure, no we need to add a minus just to emphasize that we really really dislike what he did.

Because we are totally cereal.


49 posted on 06/27/2006 12:35:42 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude
You do know that Jacob advocates breaking immigration law, right?

I am just commenting on the way folks try to color their opponents by either omitting key words or playing the race card.

50 posted on 06/27/2006 12:35:47 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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