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Commodore Computer Devotees Tinker With the Past (I still love my Amiga)
The Los Angeles Times ^ | 6/27/2006 | Terril Yue Jones

Posted on 06/27/2006 1:25:59 PM PDT by Smogger

FRESNO — Robert Bernardo spent a week this spring traveling the Pacific Northwest, trying to save part of yesterday's future.

The high school English teacher swung through Portland and Astoria, Ore., and then on to Ethel, Wash., to drop off a collection of antiquated computers — a PET8032, three VIC-20s, an SX-64 portable and a Commodore 128D.

Then on his way home to the Central Valley town of Visalia, Bernardo packed his white Crown Victoria with three more SX-64s, boxes of software and a couple of printers.

With any luck, this agglomeration of decades-old circuit boards and dusty disk drives will allow Bernardo to reboot a handful of computers made by the long-defunct Commodore Business Machines.

In an era when a home computer's power is measured in gigabytes, Bernardo still counts kilobytes as a devoted Commodore user 12 years after the last machine was assembled.

Once the largest personal computer maker in America, the company behind the VIC-20 and the Commodore 64 introduced millions of people like Bernardo to the digital age. The company went out of business in 1994, but its legacy survives in dozens of Commodore clubs around the country.

Bernardo presides over the Fresno chapter.

Bernardo presides over the Fresno chapter.

Never mind that the VIC-20 has so little usable memory — just 3.5 kilobytes — that it can store only a couple of pages of text in its buffers. Or that Commodore hardware was notoriously clunky and buggy. Bernardo still manages all his e-mail on a 1980s-vintage Commodore 64.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: amiga; cbm; commodore; computers; visalia
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I miss my Amiga :( It took nearly half a decade for my stupid PC to catch up. And don't you Atari ST and Mac users start hating. You know the Amiga smoked your computers back in the day.

1 posted on 06/27/2006 1:26:02 PM PDT by Smogger
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To: Smogger
I still have a TI-99 around here somewhere.

-Eric

2 posted on 06/27/2006 1:27:16 PM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Smogger

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3 posted on 06/27/2006 1:27:56 PM PDT by dfwgator (Florida Gators - 2006 NCAA Men's Basketball Champions)
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To: Smogger

Ah, yes...did my first PEEK and POKE on a VIC-20...


4 posted on 06/27/2006 1:28:37 PM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: Smogger
I graduated from the old TI, tape drive and all, to a Kaypro4 (I called it a transluggable - sort of a very overweight, non-battery powered, sort of laptop).
I had a friend with a Comodore 64. I did many a term paper on that one!
5 posted on 06/27/2006 1:30:25 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Smogger

I have an Atari 400 & 800 up in the attic that I kept for the superior games after I got my first 8088 PC.

I thought some collector might be interested in them, but there's still worth nothing on e-bay.

But if there is an avid Freeper out there, I might bewilling to...


6 posted on 06/27/2006 1:30:35 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Smogger
I owned several Atari 400's with the (gasp!) illegal third-party 64K memory upgrade, and a hand-wired Cherry keyboard to replace the Gawdforsaken membrane gel-switch keyboard. Used those big, klunky 5-1/4" floppy drives, and we were grateful for them as they replaced the even more cursed cassette tape drive. ("Hard drive"? What the hell is a "hard drive"?) Today, you can actually get a software simulator for the PC that will run all that 8-bit junkware.
7 posted on 06/27/2006 1:30:44 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Smogger

Amiga's were great and ahead of their time for graphics and design back in the 80's.

My ex-wife had 2 of them for her fashion design department at a major fashion manufacturer.

Why did they disappear?


8 posted on 06/27/2006 1:30:50 PM PDT by garyhope
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To: Smogger

My first computer was an Amiga 3000. Great machine, but the lack of software for some purposes was frustrating. It had a 100Meg hard drive, I couldn't imagine ever filling that puppy up! :)


9 posted on 06/27/2006 1:32:41 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: ElkGroveDan

Gave all my Atari junk (except the 400 that's wired to my TARDIS console) to a "computer museum" run by a local computer store, only to find out a month later that they were driven out of business because despite having sold 300 PC's to the local school district, they only owned ONE copy of Windows98!


10 posted on 06/27/2006 1:32:59 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Smogger
Anyone remember GeOS?
11 posted on 06/27/2006 1:33:18 PM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: 50sDad

That was a big ouch.


12 posted on 06/27/2006 1:34:02 PM PDT by commonguymd
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To: Smogger

My first computer was a TRS-80, aka Trash-80. I had the premium model: Level II Basic AND 16K!


13 posted on 06/27/2006 1:34:22 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)
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To: E Rocc

There is a TI-99 up on the shelf and a couple VIC-20s and a Capsela 500 in a box in the closet. VIC-20 made an excellent controller.


14 posted on 06/27/2006 1:34:27 PM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)
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To: Smogger

This guy needs to get out of his mom's basement.


I had an IBM PC Jr...anyone remember that disaster? U had to plug in a basic cartridge so the computer could run programs...was hilarious.


15 posted on 06/27/2006 1:34:31 PM PDT by in hoc signo vinces ("Houston, TX...a waiting quagmire for jihadis. American gals are worth fighting for!")
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To: Smogger

The challenge in those early days was to find something useful to do with the computer beyond attempting to store your recipes on it.


16 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:00 PM PDT by Jack Wilson
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To: garyhope
Why did they disappear?

Because the people that ran Commodore Business Machines were idiots. It was my first lesson that superior tehnology, no matter how much more advanced, does not trump marketing and business strategy.

17 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:11 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Ever run into the dreaded "BASIC CART" bug that let you key information for hours, only to COMPLETELY and TOTALLY lock up beyond any hope of recovery? Boy, those were the days!


18 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:12 PM PDT by 50sDad (ST3d: Real Star Trek 3d Chess: http://my.ohio.voyager.net/~abartmes/tactical.htm)
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To: Smogger
I suppose I should contact the real geeks, but I've still got a couple of VIC-20s and a tape drive, power supplies etc... but. No monitor.

Was there something "different" about Commodore monitors? What are my chances of getting the VIC-20s to display something eventually?
I remember writing many engineering programs on a Commodore 64, using the tape drive alone...

19 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:27 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Smogger
I'm with you on the Amiga.

Way ahead of its time and with the Commodore user-friendliness.

I always wondered why they dropped the ball on the Amiga.

20 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:37 PM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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