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To: Lion in Winter
They both lied and you know it. Maybe you feel there are different standards as to how to treat the unfaithful versus the faithful? Jesus weeps.

Now, please do me a favor.... don't post to me again.

You deserve no favors from me. And now you're exhibiting another behavior that doesn't seem exactly Christian to me. If you can't handle a civil counter argument to your point of view then you may find Freerepublic a difficult place to be. Let's just say that I'm inspired by God to witness for my faith as I understand it.
69 posted on 06/28/2006 3:09:33 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath
I guess I want a definition and taxonomy of lying. I haven't read the article carefully (but then I haven't accused an involved person of lying) but I don't recall a blunt, straight-up, intentional statement of something the speaker knew to be false, as you might say,"Lying in the first degree." I think there was misdirection and a certain amount of speaking in riddles, and I'm really not clear that's always wrong.

Further, whatever most pro-choice people believe, it seems that the law allows, and requires states to allow, and permits parents and fathers from being excluded from a position to influence abortion at any stage up to and including a few minutes after the birth of a viable infant.

And my impression, possibly mistaken, is that most pro-choicers don't want the law changed.

As to causes of CP, I concede that CP is not caused by one and only one thing and that we don't know all the causes.

Do you know, however, that anyone knows that the introduction of the saline solution did NOT cause this woman's CP? Do you know that know one knows that it did?

The whole mess is complicated, in this particular instance, though I think the morality is clear.

75 posted on 06/28/2006 3:24:15 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (If the gates of Hell prevail against it, it probably never was a church anyway.)
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To: Locomotive Breath; cgk; NYer; Salvation

Just out of curiosity, do you think that the message Ted Harvey sought to spread - with the help and permission of an abortion survivor - wasn't worth what he went through to get it done? Especially considering that he would've (most likely) been turned down had he said the person speaking would be talking about abortion?

After all, the practice of abortion has ended the lives of over 700,000,000 globally since 1920. And that's just recorded. Estimates come around to 900,000,000-1,000,000,000 range. That's a lot of dead babies.

Let me just ask you something; do you think the message wasn't worth it? A message that basically = "Abortion is bad and the unborn are human"?

Please think about your answer. I think God would be a bit more angry at the practice of abortion, and not at Ted Harvey for jumping through the loopholes that exist for abortion (I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have existed if the speaker was going to speak about 'gay rights').


92 posted on 06/28/2006 4:34:57 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (Conservatives teach you how to fish. Liberals give you the fish by stealing it from the fisherman.)
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