Puff, Puff, Bash - The smoking ban is based on an agenda of lies.

Philadelphia City Paper Net ^ | June 29, 2006 | Michael J. McFadden

[Just another Joe]

I think it's a long term positive for businesses, more non-smokers will go out and stay out longer.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tell that to the businesses that went under waiting for the antismokers to come make up the business they lost when smoking bans went into effect.

[Just another Joe]

Look at what you are up against folks:

Look who lies with almost every statement on SHS!

Who do YOU want to be associated with, Ray?
Liars who want to control you or people who tell you the truth that don't give a hoot what you do?

[AxelPaulsenJr]

How's the air up there on Mt. Olympus?

Clearer at least............

[evets]

Roll your own. Flag burning is legal.

[Madame Dufarge]

I'd say thinner, judging from the clarity of "thought."

[AxelPaulsenJr]

I'd say thinner, judging from the clarity of "thought."

Such as a brain denied of oxygen due to a smoker's smoke weakened lungs............?

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[Graymatter]

>>Pompous ass.

>> Pomposity.

Don't call me names, Stinky. You know you're wrong, or you wouldn't have to resort to slurs.

You too metesky. Pee-yoo, you stink! You stink you stink you stink!!! Neener neener neener.

Unpompous enough for you unweaned butt suckers?

[Gone GF]

First, smoke doesn't really bother me unless it's extremely heavy. I still bowl in a league and there are a lot of smokers.

BUT, my wife will no longer go to a bar to hear a band because of the smoke, so I don't go, either. We won't go to a restaurant that doesn't have a well segregated smoking section and she prefers smokeless ones.

Fortunately, most of the better restaurants here no longer allow smoking, although there's no city or state ordinance about it. The number of smoke-free restaurants is increasing rapidly, which tells me the policy isn't hurting business. A bar, however, might be a different matter.

[elkfersupper]

the law says only places where 60% of the revenue comes from alcohol sales are exempt.

At least one entrepreneur here gets around that by selling a beer for $22.95 and throwing in prime rib dinner for free.

[Madame Dufarge]

I see the Olympians become unhinged when faced with dissent.

By the way, "pompous ass" isn't a slur, it's a description and a fitting one.

[metesky]

Did I mention that your dignity is right up there with your o'er weening pomposity?

[at bay]

Madame Subterfuge,

Your response to graymatter's simple and eloquent statement tells me Nico is talking through you. May I speak to his nasty self please? I know you can't be that nasty naturally. No one is.

[Graymatter]

I'll give you two champions of maturity and rational discourse the last word. (Noblesse oblige.) ;)

[Madame Dufarge]

Excuse me, are you under the impression that your remarks are devastating or clever or in any way worthy of attention?

[at bay]

There he is. Hi Nico, just wanted to say hi. Got the Madame pretty well hooked, eh? Keep up the good works. Hooks as strong as ever!

[Hong Kong Expat]

Got any numbers to back that up?
Bars and restaurants go under all the time with or without smoking bans.

[Just another Joe]

Expat, I am travelling on business and don't have my files with me but I have pinged someone that should be able to give you some good articles and figures.

She, would you please post the link to businesses that have closed because of smoking bans?

[Just another Joe]

Fortunately, most of the better restaurants here no longer allow smoking, although there's no city or state ordinance about it. The number of smoke-free restaurants is increasing rapidly, which tells me the policy isn't hurting business.

Which is as it should be.
I don't care if an owner decides to make his business nonsmoking. That's their decision based on their clientele.

Where I get my back up is when the government TELLS the owner that they have to go nonsmoking based on junk science, lies, and demands from a handful of busybodies.

[Old Professer]

Your comment on the smell going away is odd; do you mean that once the smell of smoke went away the other smells of urine and stale beer then dominated?

If so, how did they then go away?

Do only smokers pee and spill beer or is it that you now spend so much time there that you have become oblivious to the smell?