Skip to comments.Hateful chatter behind the veil (Wives of Toronto's `accused` terrorists)
Posted on 06/29/2006 4:47:27 AM PDT by fanfan
Hateful chatter behind the veil
Key suspects' wives held radical views, Web postings reveal
MISSISSAUGA When it came time to write up the premarital agreement between Zakaria Amara and Nada Farooq, Ms. Farooq briefly considered adding a clause that would allow her to ask for a divorce.
She said that Mr. Amara (now accused of being a leader of the alleged terror plot that led to the arrests of 17 Muslim men early this month) had to aspire to take part in jihad.
"[And] if he ever refuses a clear opportunity to leave for jihad, then i want the choice of divorce," she wrote in one of more than 6,000 Internet postings uncovered by The Globe and Mail.
Wives of four of the central figures arrested last month were among the most active on the website, sharing, among other things, their passion for holy war, disgust at virtually every aspect of non-Muslim society and a hatred of Canada. The posts were made on personal blogs belonging to both Mr. Amara and Ms. Farooq, as well as a semi-private forum founded by Ms. Farooq where dozens of teens in the Meadowvale Secondary School area chatted. The vast majority of the posts were made over a period of about 20 months, mostly in 2004, and the majority of those were made by the group's female members.
The tightly knit group of women who chatted with each other includes Mariya (the wife of alleged leader Fahim Ahmad), Nada (the wife of Mr. Amara, the alleged right-hand man) Nada's sister Rana (wife of suspect Ahmad Ghany), as well as Cheryfa MacAulay Jamal (the Muslim convert from Cape Breton, N.S. who married the oldest suspect, 43-year-old Qayyum Abdul Jamal). The women's husbands are part of a core group of seven charged with the most severe crimes -- plotting to detonate truck bombs against the Toronto Stock Exchange, a Canadian Forces target, and the Toronto offices of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service.
The women were bound by the same social, political and ideological aims. They organized "sisters-only" swimming days and held fundraisers for the notorious al-Qaeda-linked Khadr family. With the exception of the occasional Urdu or Arabic word or phrase, their posts are exclusively in English.
After their husbands were arrested, most of the women refused to tell their stories to the media; reached at her home in Mississauga, Ms. Farooq would not comment on her posts.
But in the years leading up to the arrests, they shared their stories with one another.
She knows it freaks her husband out just thinking about it, but 18-year-old Nada Farooq doesn't care: She wants a baby. It is mid-April, 2004, and the two have been married for less than a year. In the end, the jihad clause was not included in a prenuptial agreement.
Like many students at Meadowvale Secondary School, Zakaria Amara is busy worrying about final exams and what, if any, university to go to. But Ms. Farooq -- the Karachi-born daughter of a pharmacist who now hands out prescription medicine to soldiers at the Canadian Forces Base in Wainwright, Alta. -- has already done a fair bit of daydreaming about what it would be like to have a child. She even has a name picked. If she has a boy, she wants to name him Khattab, after the commander of the mujahedeen in Chechnya who battled Moscow until he was assassinated in 2002.
"And i pray to Allah my sons follow his footsteps Ameeen [Amen]," she writes at the on-line forum she founded for Muslim teens in Mississauga's Meadowvale area. Her avatar -- an on-line symbol used to indicate personality -- is a picture of the Koran and a rifle.
(All postings in this story have been rendered as they appeared on-line.)
There is nothing casual about Ms. Farooq's interpretation of Islam. She reiterates the belief that jihad is the "sixth pillar" of the religion, and her on-line postings are decidedly interested in the violent kind. In the forum titled "Terrorism and killing civilians," she writes a detailed point-by-point explanation of why the Taliban is destined to emerge victorious in Afghanistan.
Virtually every other government on the planet, however, she only has disdain for.
"All muslim politicians are corrupt," she writes. "There's no one out there willing to rule the country by the laws of Allah, rather they fight to rule the country by the laws of democracy." She criticizes Muslims in places such as Dubai for spending money on elaborate buildings while Iraqis are being killed.
Ms. Farooq's criticism is often directed first at other Muslims. When another poster writes about how he finds homosexuality disgusting, Nada replies by pointing out that there are even gay Muslims. She then posts a photo of a rally held by Al-Fatiha, a Canadian support group for gay Muslims. "Look at these pathetic people," she writes. "They should all be sent to Saudi, where these sickos are executed or crushed by a wall, in public."
The majority of Muslims Ms. Farooq does admire are ones currently at war, and she reserves her most vitriolic comments for the people they are at war with.
In a thread started by Mr. Fahim's wife, Mariya, marking the death of Hamas leader Abdel-Aziz al-Rantissi after an Israeli missile strike, Ms. Farooq unleashes her fury: "May Allah crush these jews, bring them down to their kneees, humuliate them. Ya Allah make their women widows and their children orphans." The statement is so jarring that another poster complains it's not right for Muslims to wish such things on other people. Ms. Farooq's sister Rana is also in favour of violent resistance, posting often graphic photos of female militants and suicide bombers.
But while her heart may be in the battlefields and holy cities, Nada Farooq finds herself physically in Canada, a country the Karachi-born teen moved to after spending her childhood in Saudi Arabia. Her name is properly pronounced "Needa," and when she came to Canada as a child, some of the kids at her school teased her by calling her "Needa Shower." She'd often come home in tears.
The Farooqs, a Pakistani family, came to Canada in 1997 because they didn't like the idea of raising their children in the conservative society of Saudi Arabia, where foreign-born children don't have access to the same education as nationals, said Nada's father, Mohammad Umer Farooq.
When a Globe reporter contacted Nada's father at his home in Wainwright, and described some of his daughter's Internet postings, Mr. Farooq said he was "curious" and "concerned."
His daughter never expressed such opinions to him, he said, though he noted that he's worked in Alberta for the past five years and only makes it home to Mississauga a few weeks every year. He headed west because the pharmacist training hours required in Alberta were much lower.
His daughter has always been more religious than he and his wife, he said, and it was a faith that she developed in Canada, not Saudi Arabia. He described himself as 30 per cent religious and his daughter as 100 per cent.
"Occasionally. I pray. She prays five times."
While his daughter has used her Internet forum to lament the end of the Taliban, Mr. Farooq is a firm supporter of Canada's mission in Afghanistan. Many of the soldiers he serves at CFB Wainwright will eventually be joining the mission.
"They are there for the betterment of the people. They are there for the development of Afghanistan."
While she forms a close circle of Muslim friends, Ms. Farooq is never comfortable with life in Canada. She posts that her mother is often lonely because her father spends large portions of his time at work. She talks about going to the University of Toronto in Mississauga as fulfilling her parents' dreams rather than her own.
Ms. Farooq's hatred for the country is palpable. She hardly ever calls Canada by its name, rather repeatedly referring to it as "this filthy country." It's a sentiment shared by many of her friends, one of whom states that the laws of the country are irrelevant because they are not the laws of God.
In late April of 2004, a poster asks the forum members to share their impressions of what makes Canada unique. Nada's answer is straightforward.
"Who cares? We hate Canada."
In Cheryfa MacAulay Jamal's mind, every Muslim is another potential victim.
As a 44-year-old member of an on-line forum inhabited almost exclusively by teenagers, Ms. Jamal fits snugly into the role of maternal figure, and the advice she dispenses reflects her firm belief that the forces of evil are out to get every member of her adopted religion. She encourages Muslim youths to learn about herbal medicine and first aid lest they ever find themselves in a Muslim country under embargo, unable to receive proper medicine. Even in Canada, she says, one can never become complacent.
"You don't know that the Muslims in Canada will never be rounded up and put into internment camps like the Japanese were in WWII!" she writes in one 2004 post. This is a time when Muslims "are being systematically cleansed from the earth," she adds.
If she's looking for an example of such oppression, Ms. Jamal finds it in the Khadrs, the Canadian family whose patriarch, Ahmed Said Khadr, was killed by Pakistani forces and declared a martyr by al-Qaeda. In June, 2004, Ms. Jamal spearheaded a committee to help Mr. Khadr's widow, Maha. In Ms. Jamal's view, Maha Khadr and her family have committed no crime, only stated their opinion, and it is the duty of the entire Muslim nation to ensure the family's well-being.
Ms. Jamal's zealousness for homegrown Muslim causes is matched only by her rejection of just about everything Canadian. As the June, 2004 federal election draws near, she repeatedly advises Muslim youth to completely avoid the process. Voting, she tells them, inherently violates the sovereignty of God, making it the most egregious sin against Islam.
"Are you accepting a system that separates religion and state?" she asks. "Are you gonna give your pledge of allegiance to a party that puts secular laws above the laws of Allah? Are you gonna worship that which they worship? Are you going to throw away the most important thing that makes you a muslim?"
Ms. Jamal's list of forbidden institutions goes beyond politics. Banking, membership in the United Nations, women's rights and secular law are all aspects of Canadian society she finds unacceptable.
But her deepest outrage, like that of so many Muslims, is time and again sparked by the treatment of her brothers and sisters around the world. In a May, 2004 post titled "Behold Your Enemy!" she posts multiple articles describing the humiliation of Iraqi prisoners at the hands of American soldiers.
"Know what you will face one day," she warns fellow forum members. "Let them call you a terrorist, let them make you look like a savage, but know that THIS is the filth of the earth, the uncivilised destroyer of humanity.
"Know from this day that this is not an Iraqi problem, it is not an Afghani problem, it is not a Palestinian problem, it is not a Somali problem. IT IS YOUR PROBLEM!!!"
Often, the conversation was quite tame. The women post advice on make-up, organizing sisters-only events and finding restaurants that offer truly halal Chinese food. Fahim Ahmad's wife, Mariya, posts a warning to other women not to go watch the brothers play soccer, because it makes them uncomfortable."Yea, and besides, their OUR husbands!" Ms. Jamal concurs. "Go get your own to stare at!"
But inevitably, it would come back to Islam, the very purpose for which Ms. Farooq created the forum in the first place. When it comes to religion, the wives of Mr. Amara, Mr. Jamal, Mr. Ghany and Mr. Ahmad exhibit a commitment to hard-line fundamentalism that rivals and often exceeds that of their husbands.
In May, 2004, the Meadowvale students come across an extremely graphic video showing the beheading of a U.S. hostage in Iraq. Mr. Fahim, posting under the name "Soldier of ALLAH," praises the killers as mujahedeen who will be rewarded in the afterlife. Another poster maintains the beheading was actually carried out by U.S. forces as a ploy to direct anger at the Muslim community. It's this post that inspires Nada to prohibit any further discussion of similar conspiracy theories.
Three posts later, her husband reprints an article claiming the Americans were responsible for the beheading.
But such occasional bickering between newlyweds does not stop Ms. Jamal from seeing the bigger picture. In her 40s, she is more than twice as old as most of the other Muslims on the forum. But like her husband, she believes young Muslims are the only ones capable of standing up against non-Muslim oppression.
For the most part, the wives of the other suspects do not let her down. This is especially true of Ms. Farooq, who deeply believes that education, financial success and other such goals are relatively frivolous because they only help Muslims during their time on Earth, and not in the afterlife. When another forum member disagrees with her view, she describes him as being "too much in this dunya [world]," and not sufficiently concerned with what comes after.
"Those who are sincere in pleasing Allah will go to whatever length to help the true believers," Ms. Farooq writes. "Those who fear Allah more than they fear the CSIS. Those are the ones who will succeed in the hereafter." NEXT: The transformation of
Husbands and wives
CHERYFA AND QAYYUM ABDUL JAMAL
Cheryfa's age: 44
Husband: Qayyum Abdul Jamal, charged with knowingly participating in the activities of a terrorist group, receiving training and intent to cause an explosion
On-line nickname: UmmTayyab ("Mother of Tayyab")
Quote: "You don't know that the Muslims in Canada will never be rounded up and put into internment camps like the Japanese were in WWII!"
RANA AND AHMAD GHANY
Rana's age: 19
Husband: Ahmad Ghany, charged with knowingly participating in the activities of a terrorist group and receiving training
On-line nickname: Al-Mujahidah ("The Jihadist")
Quote: "May Allah curse the jews.. Ameen"
NADA FAROOQ AND ZAKARIA AMARA
Nada's age: 20
Husband: Zakaria Amara, charged with knowingly participating in the activities of a terrorist group, receiving training, providing training or recruiting and intent to cause an explosion
On-line nickname: Admin (the website's administrator)
Quote: "Those who fear Allah more than they fear the CSIS. Those are the ones who will succeed in the hereafter."
MARIYA AND FAHIM AHMAD
Mariya's age: 19
Husband: Fahim Ahmad, charged with knowingly participating in the activities of a terrorist group, importing a firearm, receiving training, providing training or recruiting and intent to cause an explosion
On-line nickname: Zawjatu Faheem ("Wife of Faheem")
Quote: "I heard that some sisters were watching the brothers play soccer last time...just wanted to let you know the brothers dont feel comfortable playing while the sisters are watching, so please, refrain from going there inshallaah and find something that will benefit you."
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Well now, isn't that sweet?
Islam is a cult, and these people are just typical cult members.
It stands to reason that anyone who would enjoy walking aroind in a Burka and veils over their faces were insane.
I bet she believes in life insurance.
"the wives ...exhibit a commitment to hard-line fundamentalism that rivals and often exceeds that of their husbands.
Behind every good man is a good woman. I guess this is what happens when you marry an evil hateful Muslim nag.
I wonder if they are angling for the "henpecked beyond all reason" defense.
Is there any chance we can get these women to come to our country to speak at:
The National Organization for Women (NOW)
The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU)
Liberal Jewish organizations
Liberal feminist organizations
...to name a few.
And if their husbands can be teleconferenced in to participate, that would be an added bonus.
One of the problems Westerners have with understanding Islam is the lack of accurate information on how Islam warps the souls of those who dedicate their lives to that religion. The extremists aren't just your usual suspects of sociopaths and mass murdering psychopaths. There are a lot of people who could've been good people if they hadn't been warped by Islam.
Disclaimer: Not all Muslims are warped to the same degree as the extremists, but they aren't all clear of taint. The simple observation that condemnation of terror among Muslims rarely reaches above that of a silent whisper is an indicator that there is a moral divide between our culture and theirs. And if you look at the Muslims who are born and raised in America as a subgroup, they are almost as quiet as Muslims in the Middle East at condemning terrorism, which speaks of a much deeper difference between those of us who follow Christ and those of us who follow Mohammed. This isn't a new phenomena, nor is it isolated to Islam. It is just that Islam can warp the souls of Muslims in our country, almost as much as Muslims living in islamic dictatorships.
Those whores should be home taking care of their men instead of chattering like monkeys on the internet. They deserve a good beating with a rod the size of my thumb. That would get their priorities in order.
If Canadians were cruel, they'd send her to live somewhere with Mennonite pig famers where the only books were the Bible and farming journals, no telephone or internet or tv and no newspapers - just plain people living honest lives of work and service. She'd probably succumb in six months and become a good servant.
A most informative post, indeed. But in the interests of clarity adn accuracy the following needs correction.
The 18 year old female follower of the "Prophet of Peace" said that the following should be done to the Israeli's:
The jihadi'ette can't spell. What she meant was:
A Muslim and it's mind - it's a nasty thing.
PS There is something almost pitiful about a small group of Muslims thinking they can destroy America and the Western World. I keep thinking of them as a few Indian war canoes entering the navy yard at NewPort News, Va wearing warpaint and carrying their tomahawks.
PPS American Indians were far too savvy in terms of tactics to have done jihadi nutcase attacks as the Muslims have done.
I just hope President Bush is going to enforce his insightful "If you support a terrorist, you are a terrorist" doctrine. Exceptions for Saudi's and Pali's destroys an elegantly simple doctrine. CAIR also comes to mind.
A very revealing Bttt.
Not all Muslims are terrorists.
But most terrorists are Muslims.
Good post, fanfan, I'm glad to see that the Canadian MSM tells the whole story.
*****A "No Surprises PROP PING"!*****
This filthy trash must be exterminated like the filthy vermin they are.
I agree! Heave ho, 'ho!
His daughter has always been more religious than he and his wife, he said, and it was a faith that she developed in Canada, not Saudi Arabia.
-She knows it freaks her husband out just thinking about it, but 18-year-old Nada Farooq doesn't care: She wants a baby.-
This young hag should NEVER have a child.
After all, it's the society she's hoping for....
Is that you Michael Savage?
Perhaps some Arctic natives could teach her the custom of . . . leaving a "useless, eating" aging grandparent alone to graduate from this life in the cold and snow.
What a shameful, pathetic, sad excuse for humanity those women make.
On the other hand, their zeal for their faith puts many Christians to shame. Though we certainly don't need to copy the idiotic mindlessness evil lines of thought and motivation!
Exactly, how can anyone NOT come to the same conclusion?
What can we do to make them like us?
Submit, and buy a prayer rug.
Islam isn't merely a cult...it's a political conspiracy of rather blatant mission, spelled out rather explicitly through its writings and its bloody history. To disregard the clear secular-domination it seeks to impose at all costs to its adherents is suicidal self-delusion by the practitioners of the "cult" of Multi-Culturalism.
Man, oh man! This lady wanted to be a Black Widow in the worst way!
And of course we can see that they moved to a country that they hated, specifically to destroy said country.
Hmmm, but we are supposed to be TOLERANT and NONJUDGEMENTAL for Muslims.
Yeah, as soon as 'good' muslims stand up and shun these loons, I will assume ALL muslims are the same.
In my insurance agency, we had an American woman, married to an Arabic Muslim man come into our (Christian owned office). She started going off on Isreal and how EVIL they were, blah blah blah. My very Christian boss stood up and came over and said he didn't have to sell insurance to anyone and he appreciated her right to religion, but he wasn't tolerating her bashing Isreal and would she please, kindly, take her business elsewhere. I feared car bombs after that (LOL), but was proud of him and stood behind him.
>>>On the other hand, their zeal for their faith puts many Christians to shame.>>>
So in your world fanatacism and 'zeal for faith' is not the same thing?
For that matter, let's envy those who followed Jim Jones and their "zeal for faith". Sheesh.
It would seem you have some vipers at your breast.
Very well stated. The Multi-Culturalism cult will kill us too.
My reaction exactly. With that kind of an attitude, I would never let her anywhere NEAR a military base, let alone handing out things that the forces consume.
Excellent post. Too bad the US press won't reprint this.
American born son of Ethan Allen furniture tycoon Farooq Kathwari, was killed fighting Jihad in Afghanistan
Farooq Kathwari was speaker at radical Islamist ISNA conference in 2004
Kathwari, 57, knows something of how grief and anger work on people. His eldest son was killed in Afghanistan in 1992: Imran, a 19-year-old college student born and raised in America, was drawn there by romantic notions of the fight against the Russians (and by that time, the regime they backed), says Kathwari. Imran went despite the family's opposition. He died in a mortar attack, in one of the last battles for the capital, Kabul. "My son is lying in rubble in Afghanistan," Kathwari says.
A death like that could make a parent bitter for life. And Kathwari was for a while. But eventually he decided to get involved, not in Afghanistan but in Kashmir, as a diplomat of sorts. At least 35,000 Kashmiris have died or disappeared since 1989, when their renewed call for more autonomy, if not independence, from India, sparked a rebellion that Pakistan supports. Kathwari, once a student activist in Kashmir, brought together a group of predominantly American politicians, academics, and former diplomats in 1996 to suggest ways to end the civil strife. Kathwari, talking publicly about his work there for the first time, says: "I wanted to try to save parents from the agony of losing a child. And Kashmir helps me maintain perspective."
What makes Kathwari's experience so interesting is the way in which it has influenced his leadership at Ethan Allen, that most traditional of American retail icons. He's as demanding as any CEO. But colleagues also talk about his sense of justice and humility. As Sandra Lamenza, vice-president and general manager of the retail division, puts it: "Ego is not tolerated. You can't throw power around."
Kathwari, who grew up in a privileged, politically active family, left Kashmir in 1965 to obtain an MBA at New York University. After a few years on Wall Street, he began importing handicrafts from Kashmir. In 1980, Kathwari sold his company to Ethan Allen, an early client, and five years later he was promoted to president.
Since then he has changed almost everything about Ethan Allen: the furniture, the design of its 300-plus stores, its relationship with dealers, and the senior management, almost all of whom retired between 1988 and 1990. Ethan Allen used to sell traditional furniture, some of which hadn't been updated in 40 years, in stores that even employees say looked like colonial museums. "Ethan Allen was a trusted, dusty brand in danger of going the way of the Oldsmobile," says Simon Williams, chairman of brand consultant Sterling Group in New York. Kathwari and his designers made over its Valley Forge look to suit modern tastes and they now launch new collections more frequently. They have also remodeled most stores and relocated half to prime retail space.
At the same time, Kathwari took on the independent dealers who sold most of Ethan Allen's furniture. Breaking with industry protocol, he told them to sell only the company's merchandise at one price to be set in the Danbury (Conn.) headquarters. He also required them all to buy the furniture at the same price; before, the bigger dealers received a discount. Several of them confronted Kathwari in 1986, saying: "Do you think you are Robin Hood? You're giving to smaller dealers at [our] expense." To Kathwari it was an issue of fairness, and that was that. Two dealers walked out.
A MESSAGE. Now the transformation is almost complete. To fend off a hostile bid in 1989, Kathwari led a $350 million buyout; that gave him a 10% stake in the company and more operational control. Kathwari took Ethan Allen public again in 1993. At most stores, sales have tripled since 1985, and the company's profit margins are the highest of any furniture manufacturer. But of course, no business is immune to the slowing economy and the likelihood of protracted military action. Profits for the fiscal year that ended on June 30 were $84 million, down 7% from a year ago. Sales were $904 million, up 5.6%. As late as June the stock price was holding up well, at about $38. Now it's trading around $30. To reduce costs, Kathwari closed three U.S. factories this year and he is moving some production to Southeast Asia. He still expects sales to grow 5% in 2001. Though that may be optimistic these days, the company does have a strong enough balance sheet to weather a recession.
Kathwari talks often about establishing "a moral precedent" at Ethan Allen. When Corey Whitely, vice-president of retail operations, won the company's Golden Kite achievement award in 2000, Kathwari said he should think of it as recognition that he fulfilled his responsibilities with modesty. And when the company bought a plant in Virginia ten months ago, he told Charlie Farfaglia, vice-president of human resources, to recognize the employees' service with the old company when determining benefits. Kathwari also speaks of religious tolerance, when speaking of it seems appropriate. At a Christmas dinner he hosted, he read from the Koran about the birth of Jesus. After Sept. 11, the staff agreed Ethan Allen should put a public message in a few newspapers. "They know of my loss. They know I believe injustice is a sin," he says. Kathwari wrote the note himself.
Kathwari is intimately involved, some would say overly, in running the company. That doesn't work to everyone's benefit. After years of operating without a chief financial officer--the company has a controller--Kathwari decided last year to hire William Beisswanger from Ernst & Young LLP. He left after nine months. Beisswanger would only say that "Farooq is very hands-on. I didn't think it was the right place for me." Kathwari has since hired someone else.
Any difficulties with the turnaround pale alongside Kathwari's efforts to bring peace to Kashmir. The Kashmir Study Group is an independent effort, initially welcomed by no one and still criticized by some as out of touch. But over the past five years, Kathwari has largely persuaded Indian and Pakistani officials that he is serious, fair, and worth their time. "He and his project are highly respected by both sides as well as the U.S. government," says a Bush Administration official.
The group's report, released in early 2000, offers a supple approach to sovereignty, giving Kashmiris (a majority of whom are Muslim) the right to rule themselves within India or Pakistan. That is a controversial notion among Indians who want to retain control, and some of them view Kathwari with suspicion. "They've asked the leaders to imagine a settlement that's fair to both. It's very helpful just to get people thinking about that," says Frank C. Wisner, a former ambassador to India who is now a director at Ethan Allen. Last year Kathwari met with Pakistan's ruler, President Pervez Musharraf, and Indian officials close to Prime Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee; he was one of many urging them to talk. The two met in the Indian city of Agra in July and are considering another summit. The violence continues: A car bomb exploded near the state legislature Oct. 1, killing at least 40 people. Now, though, there may be more pressure to bring peace to Kashmir, says Kathwari, because then "those fighting jihad there would lose an important base."
Kathwari insists that his work in Kashmir didn't distract him from Ethan Allen, and the board doesn't seem worried. "It helps give him a sense of value beyond the furniture business," says Edward H. Meyer, a director and head of Grey Global Group Inc., an advertising agency in New York. Who can argue with that?
See link for scanned page of original article with pictures from Businessweek
MIM:This entry on Google groups reveals that Kathwari is known as a "sucessionist leader' based in America and that he used the Ethan Allen company as a front to meet with a Kashmiri official to discuss what was said to be timber for furniture manufacture. As the writer of the artcle points out - the region in question is does not permit use of forests for timber and the meeting was for political reasons. In a discussion of an article entitled "Letter from a Shaheed" comments were posted which stated that it was Farooq Kathwari who motivated his son to quit his medical studies at Harvard to wage Jihad in Afghanistan where he was killed in 1992. (see entry below)
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Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah's recent conclave with United
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Kathwari heads the Kashmir Study Group (KSG), an influential
It is still unclear at whose initiative the visa was
Public disclosure of Kathwari's proposals provoked a minor
Kashmir: A Way Forward outlines five proposals for the
Four of five possible Kashmiri entities the KSG discusses
Kashmir: A Way Forward attempts, somewhat desperately, to
Nor is it made clear what linguistic affiliation the tehsils
OFFICIALS in Jammu and Kashmir seemed uncertain of just what
Even leaving aside the minor point that following Supreme
In some cases, the RAC Report and the KSG proposals mirror
Significantly, Abdullah's plans for the future of Jammu and
While the National Conference's demands for greater autonomy
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Chief Minister Farooq Abdullah's recent conclave with United
Aug 5 2000, 3:00 am
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- nusrat rizvi wrote:
JAMMU, March 14
WITH the US President, Mr. Bill Clinton's visit to India and Pakistan
The Jammu & Kashmir Chief Minister, Dr. Farooq Abdullah, held a
Mr. Kathwari heads the Kashmir Studies Group (KSG), an influential
A KSG report circulated among top Indian and Pakistani officials
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No one in Jammu seemed to be aware of just what Dr. Abdullah discussed
While officials contacted in New Delhi argued that the Kathwari-Abdullah
The communal ripping apart of Jammu & Kashmir suggested in the KSG
Interestingly, the Pakistani journalist, Mr. Talat Hussain, reported
The secrecy shrouding such dialogue has fuelled fears that the Bharatiya
MIM: Kathwari brother Rafiq's radical Islamist proclivities are evident in this 'poetry' which was published on the ersatz Al Jazeera website. Rafiq, who boasts of having a Jewish girlfriend and mentor blasts Israel in poem number 1
.Poem number two glorifies the death of his nephew in Afghanistan fighting 'Jihad', who was his Farooq Kathwari's son Imran. http://www.aljazeerah.info/Poetry/2004%20Poems/Palestine,%20Afghanistan,%20Iraq%20By%20Rafiq%20Kathwari.htm
ISRAELI PATROLS KILL
90 DOGS IN ARAB TOWN
The New York Times, April 14, 1995
Mother, I'm living in sin with an Egyptian
Jew raised in Paris. We stroll in Central Park.
Gaulois, her mutt, off the leash. Lucky he's
not in Hebron, where gods kill dogs for sport.
HISTORY'S MOST PERSECUTED MINORITY
IS INSENSITIVE TO THE ASPIRATIONS
OF WORLD'S MOST DISPOSSESSED TRIBE
I held my sister-in-law's hand
in the back seat of the Volkswagen
while my older brother drove
through red lights to Maimonides.
"Kicking," she said, drawing my hand
over her belly. I lowered my gaze: Her
toes curled on the car floor.
He was born a Scorpio.
For years I watched my nephew
dunk hoops, grow his hair long, flunk
Islam and embrace the NRA,
his dad's rifle on boy's shoulder.
"On Judgment Day," he wrote
"We shall meet again."
Allah's soldier flung a stone
somewhere in Afghanistan
the enemy fired arcs across
a cobalt sky. In their Brooklyn yard
his mom was pruning roses
the day the call came.
Only Muslim in the workshop,
I went on about the President,
his firm stand on Iraq,
civilization's cradle, bombed
back to the Stone Age for flaunting
weapons sold by capitalist gunrunners.
I am a witness, I must howl, I said.
In every well in Baghdad a Rafiq
is weeping while long black coats (with
gas masks) huddle at the Wailing Wall,
as if prayers could halt smart bombs.
"Rhetoric, not lyric," my peers echoed Yeats.
"Argue with yourself, not others." The teacher,
an adjunct, said "Presidential warhead
rising from its silo was over the top. Nike
stockpiling kneepads, sick. Not ars poetica."
Rafiq Kathwaria is a Kashmiri-American poet and author of the award-winning website http://KashmirRetextured.com
Rafiq Kathwari recounts his own role in Jihad and trivialises 9/11 with an article entitled 'Kashmir Dispute Will Make Ground Zero Seem like a Bonfire.
Kashmir Dispute Will Make Ground Zero Seem Like a Bonfire
By Rafiq Kathwari
When I was a teenager about 35 years ago and in my final year in college in Srinagar, the summer capital of Kashmir, the movie "Battle for Algiers" was a big hit. It captured my imagination as well as that of my classmates, one of whom approached me a few days later and asked if I would commit myself to the liberation of Kashmir. Yes, of course, I said, reading a typed sheet my friend took out from his coat pocket. "Bear Arms against a Sea of Troubles," I remember the title said.
"This is our manifesto," my friend said as I read the aims and objectives, which included blowing up bridges and the local radio and telephone buildings, ambushing army convoys and killing soldiers. The text said nothing about where we would get arms and ammunition, the number of members in the group, how we would organize, who our leader was or when we would execute our plan.
However, I remember the manifesto was long on the why, with each point emphasized in the present tense: Our cause is freedom. India promised us a referendum on our future, but fails to keep its promise. Prime Minster Nehru, the last Englishman to rule India, has kept our popular leader Sheikh Abdullah in jail for over 15 years. To the extent that India denies us our fundamental rights and subverts its own constitution, to that extent, India is not a democracy.
It was great stuff for my impressionable mind. My friend had energized me. If the Algerians could do it, so could Kashmiris. I read the typed manifesto again before signing it with a flourish.
A few weeks later that teenage flirtation landed me for 11 months in Srinagar's Central Jail, where I met 12 of my classmates who had also signed the manifesto. (The college Principal had been somehow alerted to the plan and called the police.) Subsequently, India announced that it had cracked a dangerous gang of terrorists trained in Pakistan. There was no trial. We were just locked up and forgotten, until one beneficent pro-India sycophant in Kashmir was replaced by another, who ordered an amnesty. Soon after, I fled to the future of other continents.
The passage of 35 years hasn't dimmed my memory. My passion for Kashmir's freedom is undiminished, despite the horror of the last ten years during which anywhere from 35,000 to 80,000 mostly civilians have been killed. Maddened by merciless Hinduization of Kashmir's Muslim culture, the lack of career opportunities and India's repeated betrayals during the past 50 years, a rag tag army of young Kashmiri men took on the third largest army in the world.
To obtains arms, those young men crossed the Line of Control that divides Indian from Pakistani- administered Kashmir, rode in buses to Kabul, where armaments supplied by the CIA to the Mujahideen were readily available after the Soviets withdrew from Afghanistan. India calls those Kashmiri youth "cross border terrorists" and blames Pakistan for supporting them. Pakistan, which has competing claims on Kashmir, calls them freedom fighters. Many Kashmiris I know simply say, a plague on all your houses, which, of course, includes my adopted home-I know it's politically incorrect to say it- the United States.
Many young native Kashmiri men who took up arms against a sea of troubles are dead or languishing in India's jails. The fighting now is being mostly done by foreign mercenaries, recruited by the elusive Mr. bin Laden, whose so-called martyrs have changed the tenor of Kashmir's legitimate struggle to that of an Islamic Jihad against Hindu India.
"See, we told you so," India is screaming, "Kashmiris are terrorists." India has fueled Western fears of resurgent Islam, propagandizing the militancy as fundamentalist, which in turn enables India to flout all international codes of conduct in Kashmir. If all Kashmiris are terrorists and must be smoked out of the Himalayas by 500,000 Indian troops stationed there, then let us at the very least agree on a working definition of terrorism which must include both the unofficial and official variety.
But, wait. Let's be honest. Prior to the militancy, India portrayed Kashmir as the model for secularism in India, as the warp of her pluralist democracy. What has propelled Kashmiri society seemingly overnight from a model of secularism to deranged fanaticism?
Under the present ultra right wing regime, Indian society is becoming increasingly intolerant and absolutist. There is a profound disturbance within Mother India. Many Indians I know think of India as a super power next only to the United States. I will believe that when Kashmir, the source of five great rivers, gets a basic sanitation system and an unrestricted flow of electricity the Kashmir valley itself generates.
Kashmiris have been enslaved for generations. The West is finally taking note of the fact that regional conflicts have a global reach. Nothing is remote anymore. It never was. Now we must do whatever is necessary to win the hearts and minds of alienated peoples such as the Kashmiris. Restore their dignity. Fulfill longstanding promises, and watch how swiftly Kashmiris sign a manifesto to honor democracy in a world that has changed literally overnight after nine eleven zero one. Indifference will make Ground Zero seem like a Boy Scout's bonfire gone awry.
STOP, I'm gonna have a stomach ache if I don't stop laughing! I was thinking more along the lines of what we heard way back when Gitmo was first installed. Do you remember hearing about the soldiers playing that purple dinosaur Barney's song 24/7?
I love you, you love me, we're a happy family...... (knick knack patty whack tune) That would make me confess anything
The National Organization for Women (NOW)
Liberal Jewish organizations
Liberal feminist organizations
Why? They will get a standing ovation.
Dunno if she would be happier, but I do know I'd be happier...
A "broad strata" of Canadian society.
"Some are students, some are employed, some are unemployed,"... some are jihadists, some are Jew-haters, some are living on the edge of treason against Canada.
The point is to get them a standing ovation.
It will seriously detract from the Left's moral positions, and prove that those organizations' alliance is with the enemy rather than with their country.
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