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Jesus is a loving god, but definitely not a pacifist
The Columbia (Missouri) Daily Tribune ^ | Thursday, June 29, 2006 | Philip Dooley, pastor

Posted on 06/29/2006 12:17:31 PM PDT by rface

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To: rface

If my memory serves me correctly, doesn't Revelations indicate that when jesus returns there will be the Judgement of Nations and all those that have cursed Israel will be destroyed ??

If this is correct then the answer to the question, 'Who would Jesus bomb ?' would be practically every country in the Middle East, along with Germany and Russia.

Or do I have this wrong...?


21 posted on 06/29/2006 12:32:54 PM PDT by BRITinUSA
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To: brownsfan
...As a young man, I had the makeup that would have allowed me to fight

I can't think of anything to say but I don't care who you are, that's funny!

22 posted on 06/29/2006 12:32:59 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: rface

"Vengence is mine, saith the Lord!"


23 posted on 06/29/2006 12:33:16 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: rface
The Christian Churches may support war as justifiable under certain circumstances, but to try and turn Jesus into a supporter of war strikes me as the profanest use of the words of God Almighty.

I fully support the WOT, and I am a believer in Jesus Christ. Christ's message and his example were pacifist. He preached to turn the other cheek, and early Christians were indeed extremely pacifistic.

Do you really want to turn Christ's example into an image of Jesus joining the armed forces, shooting the enemy and blowing things up? We are talking about God Himself here, do you really think He would come down here and join any army??

I'm 100% behind the army, but I can recognize that my Supreme Being adheres to an extremely higher standard than man's behevior on this Earth.

Chasing some merchants out of the Temple is a far cry from engaging in warfare. Christ is a God of love and peace, and being perfect he does not have to partake in the follies of mankind.

24 posted on 06/29/2006 12:34:21 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Syncro

brownsfan: ...As a young man, I had the makeup that would have allowed me to fight

Syncro: I can't think of anything to say but I don't care who you are, that's funny!

You are one sick and twisted freak! (The makeup was tastefully done... and the shoes matched the handbag).


25 posted on 06/29/2006 12:36:53 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: rface
Many people think Jesus was a wimp for being obedient to the Father. To the contrary, His love for us was so great that He told Peter, He could have the armies of Heaven defend Him if He was to ask. Bumper sticker on my truck; "Jesus, tougher than Hell"
26 posted on 06/29/2006 12:37:29 PM PDT by stevio (Red-Blooded Crunchy Con American Male (NRA))
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To: rface

bttt


27 posted on 06/29/2006 12:37:29 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The Rat Party's goal is to END the conflict, not WIN the conflict...should be the other way around.)
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To: Williams
We are talking about God Himself here, do you really think He would come down here and join any army??

Do I really have to list all of the examples of God Himself fighting on behalf of His people?

28 posted on 06/29/2006 12:38:57 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: Williams

Another point... Jesus Himself spoke of the legions of angels in Heaven. Surely they aren't just for community service and minor policing actions...


29 posted on 06/29/2006 12:40:56 PM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: Red Badger

Whenever someone says "Who would Jesus bomb" I always reply, Jesus uses a sword.


30 posted on 06/29/2006 12:42:27 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Williams

"He preached to turn the other cheek, and early Christians were indeed extremely pacifistic."

Everything has a purpose. The pacifism could be something that barbaric people needed as an example. A way to show barbarians there is more to life then power and bloodshed?

I believe God is a loving God. And I also believe God's true nature is a bit beyond our grasp. But if God were 100% pacifist at all times, why would He create a world where most animals need to kill to live? Why would He create an enemy as vile as muslims?


31 posted on 06/29/2006 12:45:12 PM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: Williams

>>The Christian Churches may support war as justifiable under certain circumstances, but to try and turn Jesus into a supporter of war strikes me as the profanest use of the words of God Almighty.<,

I sort of agree, except Jesus is God and God most definitely supported war and even punished the Israelites for allowing some of their enemies to live.

I think the biggest thing we all overlook on this thing is that the preservation of this physical life is not the goal of Christianity. The spiritual man contemplates things spiritual.

That is why a spiritual man would value honor more than life itself, while the "natural" man values the preservation of the temporary earthly shell in which he dwells as the ultimate goal, and sees the killing of another as the ultimate sin. Of course, if this life is all one thinks there is, how could one feel any differently


32 posted on 06/29/2006 12:48:38 PM PDT by RobRoy
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To: rface
Therefore, it’s highly unlikely Jesus will bomb you, and thanks to our brave men and women in uniform, neither will Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and our enemies.

Hoorah!

33 posted on 06/29/2006 12:51:02 PM PDT by Christian4Bush (The Rat Party's goal is to END the conflict, not WIN the conflict...should be the other way around.)
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To: rface

Imagine in the parable if the Good Samaratan came along a bit earlier when the robbers were beating the man near to death. Wouldn't it have been the Good Samaratan's obligation to stop the robbers? Didn't Jesus also say that no greater love has a man than if he will lay down his life for his friends?


34 posted on 06/29/2006 12:55:44 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: BRITinUSA

Good point. He just might use a meteor the size of Philadelphia to do it too...


35 posted on 06/29/2006 12:56:37 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: RobRoy
Just responding here to some of the thoughts above:

1 An assumption that the "legions" of angels were organized for warfare??? Come now.

2 The idea that Jesus needed to tell his contemporaries to turn the other cheek because they were "barbarians", but we "more sophisticated" folks he would tell to use tanks, flamethrowers, etc?? I think not.

3 Yes, in the Old testament God did direct wars. He has not done so since. I'll leave it up to Him to decide when He is going to launch one again.

There really is no point trying to twist Jesus' life into a support for modern warfare. We live in this imperfect world, and we try to do what is right, including at times aggressive self defense against tyrants. I'd like to think Jesus understands, but I can't claim he was cheerleading war. Jesus was perfect, his message for us is more perfect than today's headlines.

36 posted on 06/29/2006 12:57:32 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Red Badger
"If you want peace, prepare for war."
- Julius Caesar

Si vis pacem, para bellum. the standard military handgun round is named from this quote (9MM parabellum)
37 posted on 06/29/2006 1:02:41 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: absolootezer0

parabellum.....I thought that any handgun that was designed for use by military was referred to as "parabellum"........


38 posted on 06/29/2006 1:04:37 PM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: Williams
1 An assumption that the "legions" of angels were organized for warfare??? Come now.

St. Michael the Archangel

39 posted on 06/29/2006 1:05:16 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM: The perpetual insulting of common sense.)
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To: brownsfan
You are one sick and twisted freak!

That's my job!

LOL

It's good to see you were properly prepared for battle and fought the good fight.

40 posted on 06/29/2006 1:05:17 PM PDT by Syncro
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