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Judge throws out confession in Jessica Lunsford case
tampabays10 ^ | 6/30/2006

Posted on 06/30/2006 6:47:31 AM PDT by lunarbicep

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To: Brytani
>He gave a second confession while in jail that's allowed in

I had only read
the excerpt. I didn't know
that he'd confessed twice.

It's possible that
the judge dropped the first knowing
it makes "the system"

look extra careful
while the other evidence
ensures conviction.

81 posted on 06/30/2006 8:30:52 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: theFIRMbss

If you look at this legally the judge did the prosecution a favor. The confession was grounds for appeal. By not allowing it in that tactic is taken away from the defense once he's convicted.

Now they'll be left with the normal "he had a difficult life", "he was on drugs and not responsible" or whatever else BS things they come up.


82 posted on 06/30/2006 8:34:37 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: Brytani

Here again, even though the judge is allowing evidence in from that search, winning this reversal decision could get Couey's attorney to decide that is the next evidence to try to get thrown out.

From the attorney's I have known over the years, justice takes a back seat to getting the client off, no matter what.


83 posted on 06/30/2006 8:37:35 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: lunarbicep

No one should blame the judge for this. He has to do this or risk a guilty verdict being overturned on an appeal. The detectives are the ones that bear the blame.


84 posted on 06/30/2006 8:38:31 AM PDT by scsscs
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To: lunarbicep
This is time for "eye for an eye" - this scum buried that poor child ALIVE.

To he*l with a trial.

Get one large garbage bag, dig one deep hole...

(I cannot even think about what that child endured. Can you imagine what those grandparents and parents of little Jessica will go through for the rest of their lives? The horror will never end.)

Bury this piece of garbage - he doesn't not even come up to the level of 'human' garbage.

And what about his relatives that were THERE! They walk scot free...

85 posted on 06/30/2006 8:47:28 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: DakotaRed

In a perfect world the defenses job would be to assure their client's constitutional rights are being upheld. Reality is their job is now to make up any and everything to get the guilty free.

From what I'm hearing this hearing included the evidence gathered from the confession and was not thrown out.


86 posted on 06/30/2006 8:50:53 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: kjo
This "rule" is the result of Escobedo and Miranda decisions in the sixties. You know, there is NOTHING about that decade that is worth keeping.

But but - Screaming HOward Dean says we need to go back to the 60's and the values of that decade...

87 posted on 06/30/2006 8:52:09 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: joe fonebone

No, you're correct. The "no.freakin.way" comment was disbelief that they could have screwed that up so ROYALLY. What is u with these people? Geez....


88 posted on 06/30/2006 8:52:34 AM PDT by kimmie7 (If they say you kick like a girl, take it as a COMPLIMENT!)
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To: youshouldknowthetruth
Vernon Robinson -
We need more candidates like him -
Have you ever heard him speak?

link to 'the commercial':
http://vernonrobinson.com/twilightzone.shtml

and link to the lib/socialist/gays who have their knickers in a twist over it: per "This is isn't a joke or a parody commercial. It's just insane. Robinson is running for Congress in North Carolina and he uses the Twilight Zone theme to attack gays, judges, African Americans and just about anything or anyone else you can think of."

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/03/09.html#a7458

Ouch, the shoes pinches.

and on Robinson's web site: "Democrat candidate calls Vernon "a good slave" because he's the nominee of the Party of Emancipation instead of the Party of Jim Crow"
http://vernonrobinson.com/

With these vitriolic comments from the lefties, he must be doing something right.
89 posted on 06/30/2006 9:12:14 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: Thombo2
It's possible they tried to help him escape the area,but they were also present in the trailer while he was raping the girl.It's highly probable that they were aware that Couey had the girl.

And how could they be unaware that he was digging a huge hole in the yard? And did that puny little piece of garbage dig that hole all by himself?

I suspicion NOT

90 posted on 06/30/2006 9:17:51 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: maine-iac7

But but but - they can't be responsible, with all the crack in their bodies they didn't know what planet they were on..

How Brad King (prosecutor who refused to press charges) could have let those scumbags leave Florida but not go after them is unbelievable.

They are just as guilty of her murder as Couey IMO.


91 posted on 06/30/2006 9:21:01 AM PDT by Brytani (Someone stole my tagline - reward for its return!!!)
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To: varina davis
Jessica deserves justice and Couey deserves the worst possible punishment that can be meted out.

He deserves a large garbage bag and a larger hole...in a garbage dump...and buried, alive.

If a few perps were given the Biblical "eye for an eye" punishment, I wonder if such heinous crimes might go down?

And the aiding relatives scums need to be taken to the brink of a pit, put in a bag and dumped into the hole, then have to wait for hours, expecting at any moment for the dirt to start falling.

92 posted on 06/30/2006 9:24:01 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (LINCOLN: "...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time>")
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To: kimmie7

Despite my objections to Billy O, I usually stand behind his crusades against idiotic judges.


93 posted on 06/30/2006 9:24:58 AM PDT by tioga
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To: tioga

oh, yeah........GO BILL!!!


94 posted on 06/30/2006 9:25:25 AM PDT by tioga
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To: scsscs
He has to do this or risk a guilty verdict being overturned on an appeal. The detectives are the ones that bear the blame.

It could still be easily overturned on appeal and the perp could be golfing with OJ by next Christmas.

I don't blame the detectives at all. They cracked the case, retrieved the body, and brought closure to the family. There is no indication they applied coercive measures or torture in isolation from the perp's lawyer to extract a confession. This appears to be a purely technical violation of an arbitrary rule created out of pure liberal bias by the Warren-era SCOTUS.

I blame "let the perp walk" liberalism as defined most eloquently in Ann Coulter's new book.

95 posted on 06/30/2006 9:32:27 AM PDT by JCEccles
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To: lepton
But pretty much anywhere there are people, there is a school bus stop within a thousand feet, and further, the bus stops move from year to year.

I think that was exactly the thought processes involved in bringing this legislation to fruition. That's the idea behind it - make it difficult for the predators to settle in the community.

Lest you think that's a bad, bad thing to do for someone who has "paid his debt to society", just check the rate of recidivism for these people, and the desired outcome of what the law envisaged becomes apparent.

At least the legislature is making an effort to protect our kids. That appears to be a boast the judicial system cannot make at this time.

CA....

96 posted on 06/30/2006 10:53:32 AM PDT by Chances Are (Whew! It seems I've once again found that silly grin!)
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To: TommyDale

Exactly! Why bother arresting these POS? They will find their justice. Publish their pic and info. KARMA will find them!


97 posted on 06/30/2006 12:28:16 PM PDT by ftriggerf
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To: theDentist

People like that should be tattooed on the forehead with their priors before being let back out! (I don't think they shoud be let back out, but there are enough libs that do, obviously) I live in FL and cringe at some of the new requirements/laws, etc, but when I see her name attached to it, I feel selfish. How much extra time does it really take to get the additional page or two of paperwork done at the school to be a volunteer or chaperone?


98 posted on 06/30/2006 12:34:55 PM PDT by ftriggerf
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To: Chances Are
make it difficult for the predators to settle in the community.

Not just the community, but the state. Even rural areas have bus stops within a thousand feet of most residences. ...Or they simply don't have a bus service.

It's a "cute" way of exile without saying so.

I'm in agreement about the recidivism, and frankly think that the kinds of sex offenders that most think of (especially the monster in this article) should never exit a prison at above room temperature. ...But if you let people out of prison, you can't consider it a crime for them to be *anywhere* outside of prison. In California theres a big thing going on because none of some parolees in some county can find places to live within the legal requirements so they're being housed in trailers on prison grounds - and the local popluace is complaining about that as well.

It's one thing to say that they can't live in particularly opportunistic locations, like directly adjacent to an elementary school, but quite another to say they are no longer in prison but can only live in a tree on a property at least a quarter mile from all roadways, because a bus stop might be established at any point on said road.

This is essentially the same stunt that the anti-gun people did with the law prohibiting firearm posession within some ridiculously large distance of a school.

99 posted on 06/30/2006 12:47:25 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: maine-iac7
If a few perps were given the Biblical "eye for an eye" punishment, I wonder if such heinous crimes might go down?

One might argue that it is consented to and isn't "cruel and unusual" to the person who's done the deed.

100 posted on 06/30/2006 12:49:25 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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