Stark Says Stop the Stupid War

To: counterpunch

...due to malfeasance in the VA, though. “They just screwed up,” he said.

You say tomato, I say tomato.

21 posted on 07/01/2006 5:29:28 AM PDT by carumba (The secret of life is honesty and fair dealing. If you can fake that, you've got it made. Groucho)

To: counterpunch

35 years later the same lies, the same Treason. These twits really are stuck in 1971. Here is Stark now.

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"Stark finally reveals the Democrats' Iraq plan: There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said. The Iraqis will realize it's stupid to keep killing each other,Stark said. They will come back to a stabilized society."

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Here is John Kerry's 1971 Testimony before the US Senate about probable impact of US leaving Vietnam.

http://www.c-span.org/2004vote/jkerrytestimony.asp

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"Mr. Kerry: Well, I think if we were to replace the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime and offer these men sanctuary somewhere, which I think this Government has an obligation to do since we created that government and supported it all along. I think there would not be any problems. The number two man at the Saigon talks to Ambassador Lam was asked by the Concerned Laymen, who visited with them in Paris last month, how long they felt they could survive if the United States would pull out and his answer was 1 week. So I think clearly we do have to face his question. But I think, having done what we have done to that country, we have an obligation to offer sanctuary to the perhaps 2,000, 3,000 people who might face, and obviously they would, we understand that, might face political assassination or something else. But my feeling is that those 3,000 who may have to leave that country."

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So not only are the Democrat Party Leadership reliving History, they have learned NOTHING from their own personal history. Millions dead, millions of refuges after the Fall of Saigon means NOTHING to these super morons.

22 posted on 07/01/2006 5:35:01 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)

Is also called "retreat" and if put in the proper context it would be just like in the Monty Python movie "The Holy Grail", "Run away, run Away

Put in the proper context it's called Treason. Actively and Knowingly aiding Terrorists who massacred thousands of American Civilians.

23 posted on 07/01/2006 5:37:38 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)

To: counterpunch

Stark . . . . hmmmmm . . . Stark . . .

Be patient . . . it's coming . . .

Ahhhhhh, yes, the picture forms more clearly . . .

Render him stark naked and ride him out of town on a rail. Methinks that would fit Stark's starkly ignorant postulations very well.

24 posted on 07/01/2006 5:46:58 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)

Maybe just before we leave the Grand Stark can go to Iraq, to report on the violence that "may happen." Just make sure the Iraqi's know where he is. I mean, by his logic, he'll be safe.

Iraqis will kill each other, just like Americans kill each other. Stark has people killing each other in his own state! He hasn't been able to stop that. Stark lives in some fantasy la-la-land where he is perpetually drunk on his own perceived importance.

25 posted on 07/01/2006 6:33:15 AM PDT by austinaero

If anyone is interested, THIS is how the "esteemed" Pete Stark treats his constituents. This is a faxed letter from a consituent who was recently home from serving in Iraq, and Stark's response he left on the guy's voice mail at his house.

Dear Mr. Stark,

I am appalled that you voted against today's House Resolution 627, Roll Number 150. This measure would have shown publicly that you condemn the abuse of the prisoners in Iraq while simultaneously commend the service of the fine men and women who are serving in Iraq that bring honor to the uniform that they wear and to the Nation that they serve.

There are many Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, Airmen and Coastguardmen from your 13th Congressional District who are serving with pride and distinction . These men and women bring great credit upon their hometowns and the State of California.

Your "NO" vote is an indication that you do not support the troops who selflessly serve our nation and in many cases have given the ultimate sacrifice so that you might have the freedom that you enjoy as a citizen of this great Nation. Further, your "NO" vote on this resolution is a disgrace to the people of this district who have elected you.

I urge you to stop your contemptuous display of bitter partisanship and your politicization of this War. Your actions are very divisive and destructive to the morale of our troops and the morale of our nation. I know that a majority of the population of the 13th Congressional District are very strong in their support of our soldiers and in their support of the War in iraq. Your "NO" vote today reflects that you are way out of touch with the people of this district.

Very Sincerely,
Daniel L. Dow

Learned Congressman replies to Constituent in voice mail after receiving fax of letter

"Dan...this is Congressman Pete Stark, and I just got your fax. Ahh...you don't know what you're talking about. So if you cared about enlisted people, you wouldn't have voted for that thing either. But, probably somebody put you up to this, and I'm not sure who it was, but, I doubt if you could spell half the words in the letter and somebody wrote it for ya. So I don't pay much attention to it, and I'll call you back later and let you tell me more about why you think you're such a great goddamned hero, and, uh, why you think that this generals and the Defense Department who forced these poor enlisted guys to do what they did shouldn't be held to account, that's the issue. So if you want to stick it to a bunch of enlisted guys, have your way. But if you want to get to the bottom of the people who forced this awful program in Iraq then you should understand more about it than you obviously do. Thanks."

This was a comment on a blog later by the soldier (Dan Dow) who had sent the fax:
Yes, I ran for State Assembly in 2002...against a multi-millionaire developer John Dutra. Pete Stark is not "aware" enough to have noticed. I have met Stark on occasion, but I don't think that he would have left that message if he had known that I had run for office and might release his voicemail. I am not currently running for office and I have no plans to do so in the near future...

You're absolutely right that I didn't mention that I had been deployed or anything like that. This is not about me. I am merely a concerned citizen who wanted to contact my "Representative". I am no hero. And I would never claim to be.

If anyone wants this, I can make his voice recording available as an mp3.

What an asshole.

26 posted on 07/01/2006 6:40:23 AM PDT by rlmorel (John Murtha: Out of touch, Out of His Mind. Lets make him Out of Congress! DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!)

To: counterpunch

"There will be some violence in Iraq if we leave, but the Iraqis will sort it out, the Congressman said.

“The Iraqis will realize it’s stupid to keep killing each other,” Stark said. “They will come back to a stabilized society.”

Just like when we left the South Vietnamese to the communists, Right Pete?

Idiot liberal. How anybody could trust these nut cases with national security is beyond me.

27 posted on 07/01/2006 7:55:33 AM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)

28 posted on 07/01/2006 10:02:28 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)

Wow.

Craziness.

Thanks.

29 posted on 07/01/2006 10:03:03 AM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)

If that is reality, then yes, definitely make an MP3 of it, put it on the web somewhere and I will link to it from my blog. You might want to check out the latest post from it:

http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/

30 posted on 07/01/2006 10:25:06 AM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)

The Left-wing Democrats were wrong about Vietnam and are wrong about Iraq today.

31 posted on 07/01/2006 10:46:14 AM PDT by WOSG (Do your duty, be a patriot, support our Troops - VOTE!)

To: counterpunch

32 posted on 07/01/2006 10:59:21 AM PDT by GoRepGo

Well he certainly clarified the definition of 'stark-raving mad'

33 posted on 07/01/2006 11:01:32 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (I will go down with this ship, and I won't put my hands up in surrender.)

Stark is stark raving mad. Unfortunately, so are the voters in his safe socialist anti-American district.

34 posted on 07/01/2006 11:05:59 AM PDT by Bernard Marx (Fools and fanatics are always certain of themselves, but the wise are full of doubts.)

To: counterpunch

His name is Fortney, not Pete.

35 posted on 07/01/2006 11:06:30 AM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)

To: counterpunch

“The Iraqis will realize it’s stupid to keep killing each other,” Stark said.

They already know that. Was Stark one always this smart?

36 posted on 07/01/2006 11:09:08 AM PDT by RightWhale (Off touch and out of base)

I am going to Bermuda for a week tomorrow morning, but might be able to get it to you tonight. It is for real...

37 posted on 07/01/2006 12:43:21 PM PDT by rlmorel (John Murtha: Out of touch, Out of His Mind. Lets make him Out of Congress! DIANA IREY FOR CONGRESS!)

He's a spoiled brat kid who never grew up. It's really disturbing seeing a guy his age acting like a little brat on the floor of the U.S. House. He's even worse than Harold Ford.

38 posted on 07/01/2006 1:00:04 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

Yes, please make an mp3 of this recording. You may even want to make it a separate post when you get it uploaded. zshare.net is a free upload service if you need a place for the file.

39 posted on 07/01/2006 1:02:03 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat

I worked in Bill Kennedy's campaign against fortney pete back in the early eighties. Stark is too me, the very personification of evil. Looking into his cold blue eyes one can't help but notice the fanaticism and hate in this man, and it's all consuming. A toilet bug of the lowest order, stark is a perfect fit for this deranged district in California. The district's dirtbags make taliban johnny walker appear moderate by comparison.

40 posted on 07/01/2006 3:27:40 PM PDT by AdvisorB (Bomb Hamistan back to the Stone Age paleos celebrated the 911 atrocities, now its their turn to die.)

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