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'We will halt tanks with human mines' [Terrorist side of the story from Europe--nauseating.]
The Telegraph (Britain) ^ | 02JUL06 | Harry De Quetteville

Posted on 07/01/2006 8:10:41 PM PDT by familyop

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To: Centurion2000

The Israeli tanks have an additional little innovation that the Palis really don't like much.

The Israeli Merkavas bring along their own indirect fire support in the form of an internal 60mm mortar in the turret. Imagine, if you will, the look on the Palis' faces when they discover the anti-personnel cluster warheads that those things can launch *over* their barricades.


21 posted on 07/01/2006 8:56:56 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: familyop
There's the canard about "women and children" in prisons again, but no mention of the thousands of Israeli women and children actually targeted and murdered over the past few years by the generic Arab (mythical "Palestinian") terrorists.

Good point and one that should be made by Israel.
They should publish the names of civilians who were killed by suicide bombs as collateral damage for the "crime" of going about their daily lives.
Since each word of what Israel says is being printed now, they should use this opportunity to remind the world of what using restraint has cost them in the past.

22 posted on 07/01/2006 8:58:25 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: TaMoDee

Don't bust too hard on cats around here. It could get you the zot.


23 posted on 07/01/2006 9:01:19 PM PDT by f zero
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24 posted on 07/01/2006 9:02:00 PM PDT by BulletBobCo
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To: Spktyr

I agree. But blowing the thread or blowing the tank is the same. One less tank in action. 100 kilo HE in an IED on the side of a road takes out the tank. Remember there is a human crew in the steel shell.
In Anti-Tank Warfare never forget the human element.


25 posted on 07/01/2006 9:06:20 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: RedRover
"If the Palis were just stupid I might feel a little sorry for them. But stupid AND vicious rules out my sympathy."

They're like killer bees. I say just gas'em.

26 posted on 07/01/2006 9:09:17 PM PDT by blam (Monthly Donors Are Happier FReepers)
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To: f zero

Peace Brother FreePer. I was only the engineer on site.
I didn't hit the starter button.
(We used a steam cleaner to remove "Tabby" from the radiator and sourrounding envions.)


27 posted on 07/01/2006 9:10:58 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: familyop
Their favoured battlefield will be the twisting alleyways of refugee camps across Gaza

Odd that these are still called refugee camps after 58 years.

28 posted on 07/01/2006 9:12:26 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Spktyr

If the suicide bomber is really, really, really lucky, he might cause the tank to throw a track....

So the obvious question for the Pali Pancake Squad is this: Do you feel lucky?

29 posted on 07/01/2006 9:12:48 PM PDT by RedRover
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To: TaMoDee

Except that now, unlike in the Korean War, the tank has a lot more options. Disabling a modern MBT is unlikely to injure the crew, and MBTs don't ever operate alone any more. All that has to happen is that the area is secured and a tank recovery vehicle can retrieve it. Or it can be towed home by another tank - especially in urban warfare against a guerrila type enemy.

Some guerrila warfare experts recommend that the guerrilas NOT attempt to blow the tracks off a modern MBT, because then you just sited a hostile pillbox with some of the best armor known to man as well as some of the best armament in the world *right in your backyard*.


30 posted on 07/01/2006 9:17:04 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: RedRover

He's a Palistinian. By definition, they're not lucky as a whole.


31 posted on 07/01/2006 9:18:24 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: f zero

What is that?


32 posted on 07/01/2006 9:22:13 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: familyop

It would seem to me that this would be a situation that
cries out for airpower. CBU clusters, Napalm, gunships,
it's time to stop playing at war.


33 posted on 07/01/2006 9:27:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: TaMoDee
"100 kilo HE in an IED on the side of a road takes out the tank."

Even as an IED (rather than a "human mine," as mentioned in the posted piece), over 200 lbs. of compact demo would be expensive in more ways than one for the generic Arabs in Israel. And the trash that they make would be huge at that kind of weight.

They could avoid another defeat and more easily find a home with their friends, allies and neighbors in western Europe.
34 posted on 07/01/2006 9:27:47 PM PDT by familyop (Combat heavies should stick to building things and leave destruction to real combat engineers.)
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To: Spktyr
...well said in your comment #30.
35 posted on 07/01/2006 9:31:37 PM PDT by familyop (Combat heavies should stick to building things and leave destruction to real combat engineers.)
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To: familyop
Image hosted by Photobucket.com i'd say to snatch their women and children and strap them onto the outside of the Merks... but the GoatHumpers would prolly figure its killing like two birds with one stone.
36 posted on 07/01/2006 9:32:00 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: Spktyr

A disabled MBT is just that. The idea in Antitank Warfare
is to take out a MBT. If it has to be towed by another MBT the miner has done a twofer!
Infantry is tied up securing the area even if a recovery vehicle is used, a further plus.
I totally understand team concept but a 100 kilo IED will take out a MBT. I bet those "experts" would not want to be in a steel pillbox sitting in the middle of urban warfare.


37 posted on 07/01/2006 9:39:15 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: familyop

See Comment #37


38 posted on 07/01/2006 9:44:12 PM PDT by TaMoDee
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To: familyop
Image hosted by Photobucket.com


39 posted on 07/01/2006 9:52:29 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: SoCalPol
They have no heart. They are not human.

This is not the way to think about them. Terrorists are human. They had the choice to be good people. THEY CHOSE EVIL. They are still human. I think it's wrong to call anyone not human. We don't need to dehumanize terrorists to capture and kill them. We do so because they brought us to war and they are our enemy and they must be stopped from their evil.

40 posted on 07/01/2006 9:59:56 PM PDT by Yaelle
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