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To: class8601_nuke
Looking at it from a worldly standpoint, I suppose you could say that. But according to the scriptures, Jesus died on the cross "voluntarily" because this was God's plan for man's salvation. John 3:16, in a nutshell, pretty much gives the reason for Jesus dying on the cross.
17 posted on 07/02/2006 4:08:04 AM PDT by dmw (Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
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To: dmw
Well, I was pointing out the supposed violation of the law that Jesus committed. No one can escape the choices this puts forth -- either:
1. He was crazy and thought He was God.
2. He was a liar and said He was God.
OR
3. He is God and was wrongly crucified.
There are no other choices.
As for the salvation reasons, I can't think of another form of punishment that would have been more demeaning, torturous, or that would be, at an instant, seen as true suffering than crucifixion
He did go voluntarily, but the excuse they used was blasphemy.
23 posted on 07/02/2006 4:22:10 AM PDT by class8601_nuke (don't just be critical, be prompt critical.)
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To: dmw

But .. it was the statement Jesus made of who he was that offended the Pharisees so much and caused them to put him to death. Surely Jesus knew the statement would offend them .. but remember Jesus said, "I only say what I hear the Father saying".

Of course, I too believe it was Jesus' choice to die for us in order that we might be with him in Heaven.


66 posted on 07/02/2006 10:05:22 AM PDT by CyberAnt (Drive-By Media: Fake news, fake documents, fake polls)
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