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Big Three Auto Sales Drop Sharply; General Motors Down 25 Percent
AP ^ | 7-3-06 | AP

Posted on 07/03/2006 3:49:30 PM PDT by mr. mojo risin

DETROIT — High gas prices continued to pull down sales by domestic automakers in June, with General Motors Corp. (GM) selling 25.7 percent fewer vehicles than in June 2005, and sales slipping 15.5 percent and 6.8 percent at DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group (DCX) and at Ford Motor Co. (F), respectively. Toyota Motor Corp. (TM), meanwhile, credited the company's 14.4 percent sales boost to its many fuel-efficient offerings.

GM had warned that its June sales would be down significantly because of aggressive discounts last summer... High gas prices cut into sales of pickups and big sport utility vehicles — traditionally the stronger segment at both GM and Ford. GM's truck sales fell 37 percent in June, while cars were down less than half a percent. Year-to-date, GM's sales fell 12.2 percent, including a 13 percent drop for trucks and an 11 percent dip for cars. At Ford, sales of light trucks plummeted 14.6 percent. But the company saw a bright spot in car sales, which rose 8.6 percent, as demand for new midsize sedans — the Ford Fusion, Mercury Milan and Lincoln Zephyr — remained high.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: 2wordspontiacaztek; autoindustry; daimlerchrysler; doomed; ford; gm; japancheats; nompg; sunk; toyota
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I read GM once considered buying Honda.

I recall GM did not proceed because GM felt that the Japanese Governement would not have allowed it.

Plenty of blame to go around.

Darks days indeed.

1 posted on 07/03/2006 3:49:36 PM PDT by mr. mojo risin
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After all the $#!+head management at GM, it's a wonder they've held out this long.

Anyway, the party's over now.

2 posted on 07/03/2006 3:53:03 PM PDT by OKSooner (It wasn't the black guy after all - the dutch boy did it.)
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I am sure their response will be bigger cars, duller styles, stupider marketing, and much more obnoxious sales persons. There is no reason to think otherwise.


3 posted on 07/03/2006 3:55:20 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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As I've mentioned on another thread...it's like deja vu all over again
with GM considering alliance with Renault/Nissan.

I.e., struggling auto-makers merging in order to survive...then puking
and dying.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studebaker-Packard_Corporation


4 posted on 07/03/2006 3:56:50 PM PDT by VOA
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...am sure their response will be bigger cars, duller styles, stupider marketing, and much more obnoxious sales persons.
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Yeah, and just pander to the unions more!!! That will fix everything!!! On the other hand, now is the time to buy a Detroit vehicle -- name your price :-)


5 posted on 07/03/2006 3:57:10 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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"I am sure their response will be bigger cars, duller styles, stupider marketing,
and much more obnoxious sales persons."

And "Employee pricing"
= the price we have to use to get even our own employees to buy this junk!


6 posted on 07/03/2006 3:58:12 PM PDT by VOA
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Last year GM had employee pricing. Well, guess what...buyers are waiting for it again. Once they let that genie out of the bottle, they screwed themselves. I was going to buy a certain tool set at Sears the other day, but it was only on sale for $253.99. A few weeks ago it was on sale for $223.99. I know if I wait long enough it will go down to that price again. I can wait that long...can Sears? As for GM, I owned my last GMC for 11.5 years. The one I own now is less than six years old, so I won't even be looking for another 5-6 years. I just hope GM is still around by then.


7 posted on 07/03/2006 4:00:53 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (Everyone should have a subject they are ignorant about. I choose professional corporate sports.)
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8 posted on 07/03/2006 4:01:05 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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If I were an employee, I'd sure resent being paid with a supposed "benefit" if it were suddenly given to people who don't even work there!


9 posted on 07/03/2006 4:01:55 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Ford and GM should merge, move out of Detroit, shed the unions, get rid of the middle management, and start kicking some ass!


10 posted on 07/03/2006 4:02:51 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (What you know about that?)
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I own a Toyota for the reason that when I went to the Big Three dealerships I was hassled, badgered, treated like a felon, lied to, and not negotiated with.

When I walked into the Toyota dealership and told the salesman that I wasn't really sure what I wanted his response was, "go ahead I got ten models on the lot and all day." They negotiated fairly. The experience was so good we are considering our next car purchase. We will be going to Toyota first.
11 posted on 07/03/2006 4:03:39 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (Borders. Language. Culture. AAA-0. Free Travis Mcgee.)
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There was an article in the Finanacial Times on Saturday that stated Renault and Nissan would both consider taking a minority stake in GM.
12 posted on 07/03/2006 4:04:35 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Saturn had a good thing going, if GM hasn't ruined it yet. You pay a bit more, but the beauty of no haggling is wonderful.

I never understood in the first place why cars are sold like an Arabian bazaar...


13 posted on 07/03/2006 4:16:42 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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My parents bought a 3-year old 1986 or 1987 Buick Park Avenue from a family friend. Within 2 years the paint had started to flake off in a horrible way. GM admitted the problem but refused to fix it even though it was within their paint defect warranty period, because they were not the original owners.

Fast forward a number of years, my mother buys a 1994 Buick LeSabre (near identical car design) - exact same paint problem shows up a few years later.

GM had 8 years to fix a well-known problem and didn't. THAT is why they are in the tank.

14 posted on 07/03/2006 4:37:46 PM PDT by ikka
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"1994 Buick LeSabre "

same problem with my 95 impala


15 posted on 07/03/2006 4:39:07 PM PDT by spanalot
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"plenty of blame to go around"

'Just got back from a family reunion with an Uncle who retired from GM. He was adamant in defending GM and that it was Americans who did not want to buy American products. When I said something about Americans wanting to buy "quality", he flipped out.


16 posted on 07/03/2006 4:45:06 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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'Just got back from a family reunion with an Uncle who retired from GM. He was adamant in defending GM and that it was Americans who did not want to buy American products. When I said something about Americans wanting to buy "quality", he flipped out.

My uncle did the same thing. My brother said not to talk cars around him, unless it is the old classics. With the older generation dying off, no wonder the American car makers are losing market share. The older generation is the only ones buying their vehicles.

It is the same at K-Mart, as the older generation dies off, K-Mart continues to die, too.

17 posted on 07/03/2006 5:17:36 PM PDT by rawhide
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I'm considering trading in my 03 Explorer Sport for an 06 Explorer Limited. Right off the bat, the price drops from $35,500 to around $28,000 - even before any negotiating. Also, if I buy before Wednesday, I can get 0% financing.

Not sure what I want to do, but the new Explorer Limited is a damn nice car (imo). I might wait for the Ford Edge, which looks really interesting.

Regardless, I've got no problem with Ford. I've owned a few and never had a problem more serious than an alternator going bad.

Here's the Ford Edge (coming later this year, supposedly):


18 posted on 07/03/2006 5:47:23 PM PDT by FlJoePa (Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good.)
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I never haggle when I buy a new car. I do my homework, research the car, find out what the dealer paid for it and make a fair offer. Then the dealer says either yes or no.


19 posted on 07/03/2006 6:22:02 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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Highest Monthly Sales Of 2006: GM Delivers 413,473 Vehicles
20 posted on 07/03/2006 6:27:42 PM PDT by SMM48
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