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Today, for every 100 women who earn a bachelor's degree, just 73 men get one.

I would also venture to say that women get degrees in the "softer" disciplines...as opposed to math, engineering, etc.

And I also wanted to excerpt this, so it wouldn't be such a long read...but I couldn't find anything I wanted to cut.

1 posted on 07/03/2006 4:52:07 PM PDT by paulat
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Great example of how the drive-by media would rather report that boys are worse off as opposed to girls doing better.


2 posted on 07/03/2006 4:56:57 PM PDT by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To hear the college professors today, ALL college entrants fall far short in ALL areas, particularly in "thinking", both men and women. Years ago it was reported they couldn't fill out a college application properly, and it has gone down hill since then. So what else is new coming out of the public school system?


3 posted on 07/03/2006 4:59:05 PM PDT by Paperdoll ( on the cutting edge.)
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yes they are moslty softer programs, the real problem is participation in the harder programs is dropping by american males as well


5 posted on 07/03/2006 5:02:02 PM PDT by AlextheWise1
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The number of boys diagnosed with disabilities, she says, "has exploded in the past 30 years."

Translation: The number of boys put on drugs by the NEA/Lesbian/Psychological Services mafia for acting like boys has grown beyond all reason.

7 posted on 07/03/2006 5:04:24 PM PDT by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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I would also venture to say that women get degrees in the "softer" disciplines...as opposed to math, engineering, etc.

LOL! That remark got Larry Summers of Harvard fame in HUGE trouble!! I agree with the comment!

8 posted on 07/03/2006 5:06:41 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (Say what you feel, those that matter don't mind, those that mind don't matter.)
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Bill and Melinda Gates' Foundation is a NGO who closely works with the CFR, and because of that, I don't trust anything they say or do. When I think about the NGOS getting together (at least once a year) to plan our future, it really makes me mad!!


11 posted on 07/03/2006 5:14:34 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (NEVER ARGUE WITH IDIOTS!!! THEY*LL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL AND BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE!!!!)
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The fact is that men, especially white men, are mercillessly abused by the left wing teachers and administrations of todays colleges Men are not welcomed on campus as they once were.


12 posted on 07/03/2006 5:16:56 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Taglines for sale or rent. Good "one liners", 50 cents.)
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It seems to me we're raising a generation of ignorant, fat, effeminate, asthmatics who are sensitive to second hand smoke.

Another decade and it's bound to be "hell among the yearlings." Me, I'm working on my espanol.


14 posted on 07/03/2006 5:17:58 PM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (Having a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker on your car is like having "Born Loozer" tatooed on your arm.)
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It will be interesting to see the response of these college educated women when they try and find a mate. Educated black women complain because they cannot find a man of comparable backgrounds and education. While many of the women completing these studies are raging feminists and carpet munchers, the hetro female is going to be finding a small supply of educated men who will be able to support a family. It appears that my son will have a field day when if comes to finding an educated spouse. At the same time, one might invest in the company that makes turkey basters -- the future women of America will need these to start a family.
21 posted on 07/03/2006 5:27:26 PM PDT by double_down
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Ms. Mead strikes me as the sort who ought to be paying a great deal of interest in experiments at Children's Hospital in Boston where a new penis was grown in the laboratory for a rabbit. See: http://www.abc.net.au/science/news/stories/s851192.htm


24 posted on 07/03/2006 5:30:07 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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I would also venture to say that women get degrees in the "softer" disciplines...as opposed to math, engineering, etc.

As a general rule, women tend to be more interested in liberal arts, whereas men are more interested in technical areas like math and science. I believe it has a lot to do with the nature of men and women. I remember hearing not long ago that on average, women talk something like 2-3 times as much as men do so it would make sense for many women to pursue areas that allow more social interaction and men to pursue areas with less interaction.

But as a woman with a Mechanical Engineering degree, I wouldn't necessarily say that liberal arts is any "softer" than engineering. It all depends on the person. I, for instance, can find the heat transfer caused by a computer heat sink easier than I can write a simple grammatically correct sentence. Unfortunately my job requires me to email/fax customers just about everyday, and because of my grammar, I'm pretty sure most believe that either English is not my first language, or that I am borderline retarded.

Btw, while we're on the subject, I attended a university that intentionally had a 1:1 male to female ratio. In making the ratio equal, the school's standards for men (based on SAT scores and average GPAs) were actually a bit more lax than for women because there were less male applicants to choose from. I don't believe judging one gender more lenient than the other is really a good way to solve this problem.

30 posted on 07/03/2006 6:03:16 PM PDT by Mazi83
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One looks in vain in Ms. Mead's report for any indication that anyone is undermining girls. She seems to think that concern for boys means shortchanging girls.

It is always good to hear from Christina Hoff Sommers.

Ms. Mead is probably a feminist, incapable of true empathy for males. She probably regards boys as dangerous proto-oppressors. To feminists, boys are inherently defective, so their failure is to be expected and even applauded.

Too many people prefer not to notice that males still outscore females slightly on verbal SATs and substantially on math SATs. In other words, current male academic problems result from the incompetence or unwillingness by teachers and parents to motivate and educate boys. The problem here is not with defective boys, but with defective teaching and parenting, both fostered by a defective feminist society.

34 posted on 07/03/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by TChad
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"The idea that women might actually surpass men in some areas seems hard for many people to swallow."

No more hard to swallow than the idea that men might actually surpass women in some areas...

35 posted on 07/03/2006 6:59:01 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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I would also venture to say that women get degrees in the "softer" disciplines...as opposed to math, engineering, etc

Not as much as formerly. In Computer Science, both the "hard" and "soft" versions, it's not true at all. The last woman my department hired was an Electronics Engineer, and we're a heavily software oriented bunch. One of the top technical gurus of the division that builds "spooky" stuff is a woman. My department head is a woman engineer, and the VP above her is also a woman, but her PhD is in a "semi soft" area, Industrial Psychology (ergonomics, training, etc). One of the rising technical stars of the Space Sciences Division is female as well. Although I can't recall her name (she does work in another division after all) , you've possibly seen her on the Discovery, History, or National Geographic channels, she's an astrophysicist.

53 posted on 07/03/2006 10:07:50 PM PDT by El Gato
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I'm not sure if it was Sommers who said this (paraphrasing) but it has always stuck in my mind:

"If girls are falling behind academically, change the curriculum.

If boys are falling behind academically, change the boys."


59 posted on 07/03/2006 11:28:23 PM PDT by torchthemummy ("Patriotism...means looking out for yourself by looking out for your countryā€¯ - Calvin Coolidge)
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One looks in vain in Ms. Mead's report for any indication that anyone is undermining girls. She seems to think that concern for boys means shortchanging girls. But it does not--because education is not a zero sum game.

If your primary goal is to remedy past discrimination, then everything becomes a zero-sum game.

62 posted on 07/04/2006 6:52:23 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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