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Ken Lay's Final Loophole
Nize Notes ^

Posted on 07/06/2006 7:39:44 AM PDT by toaster

...because Ken Lay's case may still have been appealed, Lay's death expunges the conviction from his record.

This means that any orders to vacate his wealth are annulled, and his family gets to keep millions of dollars that they likely would have lost had he gone to jail.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: enron; enronlist; kenlay
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1 posted on 07/06/2006 7:39:44 AM PDT by toaster
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To: toaster

He gets to stiff his lawyers too.


2 posted on 07/06/2006 7:41:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: toaster

are they sure this was 'natural causes' ?


3 posted on 07/06/2006 7:42:31 AM PDT by Mr. K (Some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help...)
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To: toaster

I just about busted a gut, laughing at the libs on the local talk radio, bitching about Lay's death and how it just wasn't fair!!


4 posted on 07/06/2006 7:42:36 AM PDT by newcthem (No "Rusty" Feingold does not represent me.......he does offend me, however.)
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To: toaster

Laughing from the grave, maybe.


5 posted on 07/06/2006 7:42:56 AM PDT by tbird5
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This is probably going to upset people more than anything. He had it all protected through Limited Partnerships, etc. and even the government would have been unable to seize all the assets. He was very shrewd with his agressive asset management program.


6 posted on 07/06/2006 7:43:29 AM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: Mr. K

Here, Ken, drink your iced tea..it's nice and sweet, just the way you like it...


7 posted on 07/06/2006 7:43:39 AM PDT by steve8714
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His autopsy was almost finished, last I heard. I'm betting someone will contest it, and want another medical team to confirm it.


8 posted on 07/06/2006 7:44:27 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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This means that any orders to vacate his wealth are annulled, and his family gets to keep millions of dollars

I'm not a lawyer, but I highly doubt this assumption...

9 posted on 07/06/2006 7:44:43 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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This means that any orders to vacate his wealth are annulled, and his family gets to keep millions of dollars that they likely would have lost had he gone to jail.

Was he related to the Clintons?

10 posted on 07/06/2006 7:44:44 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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Ken Lay's heirs can't be punished for his crimes. A law of attainder is unconstitutional. He went out at the right time.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

11 posted on 07/06/2006 7:46:09 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: toaster
I heard something similar regarding a NY State case...the guy was convicted of murder but died shortly after the verdict was handed down so his record was wiped clean.

I would think,however,that his estate could be sued by various individuals/groups/entities for civil fraud,etc.

12 posted on 07/06/2006 7:46:09 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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"He was very shrewd with his agressive asset management program."

And yet, he claimed no knowledge of what was going on with Enron's books. Hmmmmm.


13 posted on 07/06/2006 7:48:01 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: newcthem
I just about busted a gut, laughing at the libs on the local talk radio, bitching about Lay's death and how it just wasn't fair!!

It's amazing to contrast it with the way they reacted to Zarqawi's death. The local rag here is all "Ken Lay's death is disappointing to those who wanted to see him spend years in jail". Like Ken Lay is sitting around saying "I'll show the bastards. I'll have a massive heart attack!"
14 posted on 07/06/2006 7:48:02 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Now that Zarqawi is dead, who will the Democrats nominate in 2008?)
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It's done; 3rd ppg down...

http://www.cnn.com/2006/BUSINESS/07/05/enron.lay/index.html


15 posted on 07/06/2006 7:48:13 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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Who is Raymond Nize and why should we give credence to what he says about this?
16 posted on 07/06/2006 7:48:15 AM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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To: Gay State Conservative
They could file a civil lawsuit - assuming they know where all the assets are. As a practical matter, its difficult to sue a man's heirs. Whatever his misdeeds, they don't deserve to get punished for something they didn't do.

(The Palestinian terrorist regime is the crisis and Israel's fist is the answer.)

17 posted on 07/06/2006 7:48:15 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: toaster
>Lay's death expunges the conviction from his record. This means that any orders to vacate his wealth are annulled, and his family gets to keep millions

Let's get some lawyer
to go to Hell and bring back
Lay to do his time!

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18 posted on 07/06/2006 7:48:40 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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But I assume aggrieved individuals will still sue his estate.


19 posted on 07/06/2006 7:49:27 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: ErnBatavia

I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.


20 posted on 07/06/2006 7:49:34 AM PDT by Protagoras (("Minimum-wage laws are one of the most powerful tools in the arsenal of racists." - Walter Williams)
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