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To: tgambill
..by the way, your comment that the State Department is not part of the MSM....then why publish fabrications..since no one in the MSM reads the website ....?

Yeah - that's it Tom: The State Department is the party that's spreading lies about the Balkans, rather than you with your "no mass graves in Kosovo" and mindless repetition of Serb nationalist disinformation.

On July 11, we remember the tragic loss of lives in Srebrenica ten years ago. The mass murder of nearly eight thousand men and boys was Europe's worst massacre of civilians since World War II and a grim reminder that there are evil people who will kill the innocent without conscience or mercy. This horrific event remains a source of pain for people in the Balkan region and for all those who believe in freedom and the dignity of human life. I join all Americans in sending our deepest condolences and expressions of sympathy on this solemn occasion.

That's not the State Department, bub, it's the President, from last year. source link

You going to accuse him of being a liar as well?

Go ahead, make my day. Not because it would have any meaning, what with you already having divested yourself of any integrity and relevance you may have had before engaging upon your present course, but because I want to see just how far you're willing to go past accusing our servicemen of being war criminals based upon their participation in Allied Force.

I bring to your attention your statement:

So, the US Lead attack in Kosovo for example was almost one of the worse in history due to its indiscriminate bombing of both Albanians and Serbs....who were just escaping and we in the work place at the wrong time or, purposely targeted, we'll never know. Tom Gambill, 6/30/06

and bring to your attention the following:

Protocol Additional to the Geneva Conventions of 12 August 1949, and relating to the Protection of Victims of International Armed Conflicts (Protocol 1) [source link]

PART IV: CIVILIAN POPULATION

Section 1: General Protection Against Effects of Hostilities

Chapter II: Civilians and Civilian Population

Article 51. Protection of the Civilian Population
4. Indiscriminate attacks are prohibited. Indiscriminate attacks are:
a. those which are not directed at a specific military objective;
b. those which employ a method or means of combat which cannot be directed at a specific military objective; or
c. those which employ a method or means of combat the effects of which cannot be limited as required by this Protocol; and consequently, in each such case, are of a nature to strike military objectives and civilians or civilian objects without distinction.

which our armed forces observe.

AIR FORCE POLICY DIRECTIVE 51-4 [source link .pdf]
16 APRIL 1993
Law
COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW OF ARMED CONFLICT

2. Air Force personnel will comply with LOAC in military operations and related activities during armed conflicts, no matter how these conflicts are characterized.

6. The terms used in this policy are as follows:

6.4. Law of Armed Conflict. All international law which concerns the conduct of hostilities during armed conflict and is binding on the United States or US citizens. It includes international treaties and agreements to which the United States is a party as well as customary international law. These treaties include the 1949 Geneva Conventions and the 1907 Hague Conventions and Regulations, among oth- ers.

So let's summarize, shall we?

You're calling the State Department liars, you're going to have to call the President a liar, and though you're completely oblivious to it, your assertion that we bombed indiscriminately in violation of the Laws of Armed Conflict makes any members of our military who planned, executed, or were aware of and did not correct the missions in question, war criminals.


"Yeah, been here before. Didn't land last time though. You gonna arrest me for war crimes, or what?"

You're a joke Tom. I don't take you seriously, and neither would anybody with half a clue about the things you choose to expound upon.

58 posted on 07/08/2006 11:02:01 AM PDT by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite

"On July 11, we remember the tragic loss of lives in Srebrenica ten years ago. The mass murder of nearly eight thousand men and boys was Europe's worst massacre of civilians since World War II and a grim reminder that there are evil people who will kill the innocent without conscience or mercy. This horrific event remains a source of pain for people in the Balkan region and for all those who believe in freedom and the dignity of human life. I join all Americans in sending our deepest condolences and expressions of sympathy on this solemn occasion."

**** this is an effort to keep the ruse going. So that I won't call the Then Clinton Administation's claim to all these truths, and since we know the "truthful" administrators of the administration....lolol....where are the 8,000 bodies...., the 11,000 killed in Mass graves in Kosovo...the joke is you as you come up with idealistic policy that was not followed. it means nothing as your posts are empty with any proof......of any claim you make.

the current administration cannot go back on the agenda and the mishaps of the clinton administration for many reasons that are over your head. the Balkan intrusion was built on lies and half truths....Its a serious game being played and a quigmare that we are in and can't get out of. Bush has actually done a masterful job where Clinton failed since the day he was born....and continues....I'll leave it at that because this is another thread and a page or two of elaboration.


59 posted on 07/09/2006 5:56:26 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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To: Hoplite

your credibility is shot......and not much more needs to be said......

"If Senator Kennedy wants to talk about fraud [in relation to the Bush administration's invasion of Iraq], he ought to talk..... about what he and President Clinton told us in 1999 when they told us to bomb innocent Serbs, we'd find 100 thousand mass graves. Those mass graves were never found. They lied to the America people to justify the aerial bombardment campaign."

Congressman Curt Weldon (R) Pennsylvania on 'Hardball with Chris Matthews'
NBC News, 19 September 2003


60 posted on 07/09/2006 7:09:57 AM PDT by tgambill (I would like to comment.....)
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