[Howlin]

Polly, it has to be "DESTROY" to them; they cannot accept the fact that people are beginning to catch on to this guy.

I wonder if we're just suppose to IGNORE the facts that are all over the internet just because some of these people put on hats and had their pictures taken with him?

[pollyannaish]

Here's the thing. I would rather it not be true, but there are warning signs that are worrisome. What I am looking for in ALL organizations such as this is transparency. If these guys can open up their books, make a full accounting and show progress I will applaud their efforts. If not, I will remain skeptical. It's as simple as that.

That said, I completely disagree with the TACTICS of people like EV who can not see the difference between wanting an accounting of something—and destroying. It is dangerous to our positions on this issue and only serves to set us back. It is a recipe for perpetual righteous victimhood. Some would rather assume that position than take responsibility for forward progress.

There are others on this thread with whom I disagree who have taken completely different tactics. I respect them immensely and believe that we can work together to go forward.

That, in a nutshell, is the difference, imo.