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How do you explain all of the information that has been presented that is unrelated to either the ABC story, Southern Legal, or the COCC? People who are registered as several different groups, people who show up at each others' rallies, etc? You haven't answered any of the questions from those sources, either.

Sure have. You just neglected to read it, or have chosen to ignore it.

One of the critics is a long time competitor of Chris Simcox's, who instead of appreciating the Minutemen's success at drawing attention to the border problem, has chosen to empower the open border lobby by launching a kneejerk attack.

A couple others were former Minutemen who had designs on their own organization and tried to use the Minutemen's lists to launch it...or totally naive former Minutemen who somehow thought their time on the border was going to be like taking a walk in their city park.

This whole thread has had nothing of substance that degrades my high opinion of Chris Simcox's efforts in the least.

Just slander, personal attacks, twisting of the truth and venom.

What do you think of your friends and allies here using CP slander, Miss Marple? Is that an honorable thing to do? How about that trash from the SPLC?

Your silence is a form of assent.

And exactly where is the fence, how much money was spent, where is the rest of the money, and why were people led to believe that it wuld be an Israeli-style fence, when the article linked above shows that Ladd NEVER wanted anything except a fence to keep MEXICAN CATTLE out? Do you think donors would have chipped in to buy that rancher a CATTLE FENCE?

I pay attention to FACTS. Even a blind pig finds an acorn once in a while. If those sources are suspect, then it is your job to give us information which proves they are wrong.

This kind of behavior by Simcox and others, including you, is an embarassment to the conservative movement and can do us lasting harm. I make no apologies nor am I letting you get away with your usual bloviation and grandstanding. Your behavior has been abysmal, and you should be embarassed.

I refrained from making ANY comment on this thread until post 600. I didn't want to cause any more ill will, and felt that surely, SURELY, someone would present a different side to the story. You have not. Instead you simply attack anyone who criticizes Simcox and do nothing to explain what's really going on. You are interested in nothing but causing division and dissent within conservative and Republican circles, which is exactly how Keyes and Buchanan have behaved over the years, and which has made them buckets of money at the expense of naive contributors.

Posture all you want. I am not apologizing for one thing I said, unless you can post some PROOF that the money is not being diverted to things other than the fence. And I mean PROOF, not your word, which I do not value as being truthful.