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To: Crim

You hit on it, its a "myth"

Has it occured to you that you have no proof? Just a bunch of lame, unproven nonsense?

Its funny, you are big on completely unproved theories and such, but you probably don't embrace the theory of evolution which has a huge tested body of evidence and research. I have an open mind, but you are just throwing out garbage with no compelling proof, just your words. So, have you yet told me how the sloth, an arboreal dweller that can't function on land made it back to the amazon? Or how the lions and tigers and jaguars made it back to africa without any food? Or did they eat the Unicorns? I want you to explain how all the animals made it back home (hell, explain how all the animals made it the ark in the first place!). Oh, and the millions of species of bugs. Oh, and how all the fresh water fish survived being innundated by salt water, etc. etc.........

Keep believing fables, someone is profiting off of you for sure.


66 posted on 07/08/2006 12:41:07 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Troy was once a "myth" also...until someone found it...right where it was supposed to be...but it took ground penetrating radar on a space shuttle to find it...

"science" once proclaimed the earth to be the center of the universe....it was accepted as fact...

"science" once held that the earth was flat...everyone knew that as true...

"science" has told us of extinct species...yet they turn up millions of years after science told us they died off..

"science" was certain that an ice age would devour the Americas by the year 2000...I remember quite well...they even proposed massive C02 generators to keep the planet warm...

Now "science" has changed it's collective mind again and it's global warming...but they cant explain global warming on mars at the same time...where no man drives an SUV...

I pity a man with a closed mind...you cannot enjoy the wonder and mystery of life for it's own sake...

Here are some of my "beliefs" for what it's worth..

Science will one day "prove" the existence of things once only faith held to be true...

We will surpass the speed of light through finding the secret of gravity...

Other intelligent life exists in the universe...

Man as an intelligent and technological being has a prehistory on the planet as yet unknown...

No "missing link" will ever be found....because we arrant from here...

None of these beliefs conflict with a belief that there is something beyond what we can see and touch to life...

I don't claim to have any mystical answers...but I've been alive long enough to know that we dont have all the pieces of the puzzle...there are some things that cannot be measured or cataloged...there are square pegs left over and only round holes...

Anyone who claims to know for certain is the fool...
88 posted on 07/08/2006 1:09:47 AM PDT by Crim (I may be a Mr "know it all"....but I'm also a Mr "forgot most of it"...)
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To: Central Scrutiniser

You're using secular reasoning to try to understand a miracle.

Either God exists or He doesn't. I believe that He does. If someone believes otherwise, that doesn't bother me in the least. I'm not going to lecture someone and tell them that they need to share my faith, or anything like that.

That being said, I've never seen to logic in the type of argument you're presenting. I've even seen people here who profess to believe in God make similar arguments. The arguments are that the Biblical flood couldn't have happened because various aspects of it are too hard to believe. Such as the ones you've mentioned. How could fresh water fish survive in salt water? How could tropical animals have found their way back to their native lands so soon?

But **IF** God exists, those things aren't problems in the least, are they? Now, you may say you don't believe in God (I don't know if you do or not, feel free to post your opinion on this if you feel comfortable discussing this). If you don't believe in God, then we simply have two incompatible world views. You're entitled to believe in a purely materialist worldview, and I'm entitled to believe that there's a realm beyond the material.

But if you do believe in God, how do place limitations on Him? How could you maintain the following positions coherently?

A) I believe in God.
B) But I don't believe He could have pulled off that Noah's flood deal. The salt water fish would've died. The tropical animals couldn't have found their way back to the equatorial jungles afterward. Etcetera.

But if God exists, and is indeed God, He could solve any of those problems with the proverbial snap of a finger, couldn't He?


155 posted on 07/08/2006 6:30:26 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: Central Scrutiniser

You probably don't believe that Moses parted the Red Sea and led the Israelites out of Egypt.

And that the pursuing Egyptians and their chariots were wiped out by the sea once the Israelites reached safety.

You probably wouldn't believe it if you saw it with your own eyes: http://www.wyattarchaeology.com/red_sea.htm


164 posted on 07/08/2006 7:40:09 AM PDT by proudpapa (of three.)
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