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Court Rules Against Sanitizing Films
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Posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin
I doubt this will affect Clear Play, as they simply have filters loaded onto the DVD player, and original films are edited as they play by computer.
We love our Clear Play DVD player.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:47:24 PM PDT
by
Politicalmom
(Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
To: Strategerist
CleanFilms maintains in their inventory one copy of each un-edited film for each copy of the edited film. Certainly must not be a money issue for the studios. In fact, I think a case could be made that they sell more copies because of this arrangement.
To: FreedomCalls
Well I had no idea they come in a two pack.
I will ask this question though, isn't it against the law to make a copy of anything the is copyrighted. Even if you burn a copy of your own CD to listen to in your car so the original doesn't get torn up, isn't that against the law?
I understand the FBI will not bust into a car and take someone to jail over a few burned CD's (priorities would be rather mixed up!) but the fact still is, it is against the law to make copies of any copyrighted materials, even if it is solely used for your own personal use.
83
posted on
07/08/2006 10:47:58 PM PDT
by
albyjimc2
(If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
To: I still care
Buy a Clear Play DVD player. They are wonderful.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:48:11 PM PDT
by
Politicalmom
(Nearly 1% of illegals are in prison for felonies. Less than 1/10 of 1% of the legal population is.)
To: Larry Lucido
I was going to make a killing selling DVD's of just the parts they "scrubbed" out. :-) Have you seen Cinema Paradiso?
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:50:36 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: FreedomCalls
Exactly.
Copyright laws are to protect intellectual property for the sake of the revenue it generates for the owner.
Not because their feelings are hurt that someone is watching what they consider to be a superior version of the work.
This is just narcissistic Hollywood brats throwing a hissy fit, demanding to be loved,"Just the way they are".
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:52:12 PM PDT
by
Jotmo
(I Had a Bad Experience With the CIA and Now I'm Gonna Show You My Feminine Side - Swirling Eddies)
To: Strategerist
So you believe that a person or company cannot purchase something, then change the content? So once it is bought, it still belongs to the seller?
87
posted on
07/08/2006 10:53:57 PM PDT
by
jeremiah
(How much did we get for that rope?)
To: Strategerist
Or editing, say "Toy Story" to add several dozen F-bombs, and selling it as the Dirty version of "Toy Story", without consultation or the permission of the producers of the movie? Have the studios allowed that anywhere else? It's important because in this case the studios have already approved the exact same cuts these companies are making in the versions they already sold to network TV and the airlines.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:54:05 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: albyjimc2
If the museum buys the picture, they can put whatever they want over it. If you buy a book, you can take pages out of it, and resell it. If you buy a movie, you can edit some scenes out of it. All three instances are of an owner changing his property.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:55:49 PM PDT
by
jeremiah
(How much did we get for that rope?)
To: torchthemummy
In the world of home-viewed movies, the next step could be changing an image on the screen to match a users preference. In one display of the power of emerging technology, a company showed a revised version of the nude-sketch scene in Titanic, in which the actress Kate Winslet appeared, not unclothed as in the original, but clad in a computer-generated image of a corset. That's exactly what the TV version of "Showgirls" does. There are drawn-in tops covering the girls breasts in many a scene. That TV version is "approved by the director and studio."
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:56:25 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: JCEccles
If I choose to not watch part of a movie, have I violated the moviemaker's rights? There is nothing stopping you from purchasing the movie and editting it yourself before showing it to your family. You can't do it and sell it to someone else.
To: albyjimc2
CleanFilms defenses to the Studios lawsuit and their Summary Judgment Motion are wrapped up in the First Sale and Fair Use doctrines.
Do we know this law well enough to say that this was a slam dunk against the company? Yes, at this point the District Court has ruled against them. I think we all know how we feel about some Court decisions. In reading the Clean Films response, this case may yet have to go to the USSC.
To: albyjimc2
I like how you refuse to answer anything I posted, you just do a horrible job of quoting me. I think MSNBC is taking applications. I stopped taking you seriously. Your view is the only one and if someone doesn't agree, you get insulting. You don't debate. You insult and browbeat.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:56:35 PM PDT
by
DJ MacWoW
(If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
To: Calpernia
What about when a song that has a bad word in it gets bleeped when played on the radio? Why is that different?
Because the artist approves the bleep of their song, otherwise it would not get played on the radio and they would not get their royalty. It's probably part of the standard BMI language.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:57:17 PM PDT
by
Defiant
(MSM are holding us hostage. Vote Dems into power, or they will let the terrorists win.)
To: DJ MacWoW
Because you dance around my questions and I ask if OJ killed Nicole I am insulting? I believe I am pretty laid back when it comes to debateing these subjects. You misquote me and then expect me answer your question without mentioning it? Be rational here, please.
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:58:51 PM PDT
by
albyjimc2
(If dying's asked of me, I'll bear that cross with honor, cause freedom don't come free...)
To: Strategerist
Wow, people are remarkably dense on this thread. The airline and TV edits are done with permission of the copyright holders. This stuff by the companies in this suit was completely unauthorized. Comprende? The versions sold by these companies have the exact same cuts as the TV and airline versions. Those are "approved" already. Comprende?
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posted on
07/08/2006 10:59:46 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: Calpernia
What about when a song that has a bad word in it gets bleeped when played on the radio?
Why is that different?1) the radio stations aren't selling the songs; B) it's done with the permission of the record labels (which usually do the radio edits themselves) and III) deleting foul language is required by federal law.
To: BenLurkin
Excellent point! Most TV/Cable movies starts with "this movie has been edited to fit time constraints blah, blah, blah"
To: albyjimc2
That does make sense, but here is the problem. Let's say that this company does this, and someone buys the original and sends it in. The purchaser then gets his scrubbed movie back. What is going to stop him from burning a copy of that disc and giving it to his friends? Then his friends giving it to his friends? What's to stop anyone from doing that with an original movie from Netflix or Blockbuster? Answer: nothing. So then why should it be any different if the movie comes from CleanFlix than if it comes from Netflix or Blockbuster?
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posted on
07/08/2006 11:03:21 PM PDT
by
FreedomCalls
(It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
To: albyjimc2
You are such a Rube.
Hollywood laughs at the drug and immigration laws.
But don't violate that copyright law! That takes money out of their pocket.
There's a sucker born every minute.
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posted on
07/08/2006 11:03:37 PM PDT
by
rcocean
(Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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