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1 posted on 07/09/2006 2:54:04 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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...and if any of his structures crumb and kill anyone, add mulitple counts of murder!


2 posted on 07/09/2006 2:57:04 PM PDT by Bommer
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This reminds me of a situation we had in San Diego before minority set-asides in city work were abolished. One company was a Black-owned concrete supplier. When delivering for a non set-aside job, the guy charged a regular price, but when it was "Black concrete", the price went way up because he was the only game in town. Idiocy like that is illustrative of why those programs are usually a bad thing for taxpayers.


3 posted on 07/09/2006 2:58:03 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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"city and state programs designed to help minority-owned businesses"

Programs which by their very nature are unethical, immoral and discriminatory.

4 posted on 07/09/2006 3:04:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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The way highway bridges in Missouri look six months after then are poured it appears Pacific Cement is a multi state operation.
6 posted on 07/09/2006 3:08:29 PM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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"Hollow" concrete.. similar to New Orleans levee's
7 posted on 07/09/2006 3:08:37 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts ("Liberals see what they believe... Conservatives believe what they see")
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"He was not a malicious guy. He didn't go into this business thinking he was going to rip people off,'' said San Francisco Supervisor Fiona Ma, who gave back $5,500 that Ramirez contributed in 2004 to her state Assembly bid after the news broke of the fraud allegations in May.

"He's a hard-working guy, just trying to survive,'' Ma said. "He takes care of his grandkids. He doesn't have an easy life."

And there you have it -- a local politician on record explaining away the fraudulent activity of a supporter. San Francisco politicians are priceless.


9 posted on 07/09/2006 3:12:55 PM PDT by Roberts
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"Walker, who has known Ramirez for 30 years, said Pacific Cement was only doing what was needed to survive in a business climate where "white folks" had it in for Ramirez from the start.

"He was a Mexican, and the whites didn't want him in on it,'' Walker said. "He tried to cut the corners so he could make money like them, and now they say he is a big old criminal. That is what it boils down to.''
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12 posted on 07/09/2006 3:21:32 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (Doing the jobs Americans won't do? Guess you haven't seen "Dirty Jobs")
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This form of affirmative action racism is an affront to every hard working American.


13 posted on 07/09/2006 3:26:08 PM PDT by Prokopton
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Yeah, but at least a minority got the contract!


15 posted on 07/09/2006 3:29:46 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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We actually have a situation where the engineers say "recycling" is bad? What do the enviros have to say about this? They should have the final say on whether recycled concrete aggregate can be used or not.


18 posted on 07/09/2006 3:33:36 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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I work at a medium size airport in the mid west and seen many construction projects on the runways and taxiways. In each contract, when the work was finished but before it was accepted, a separate sub contractor would come out and drill core samples of the pavement put down to make sure it met specs.


22 posted on 07/09/2006 3:49:38 PM PDT by ops33 (Retired USAF Senior Master Sergeant)
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Yikes this is bad stuff and it takes years, maybe decades to discover the scope of the problem...
23 posted on 07/09/2006 4:00:06 PM PDT by pointsal (Q)
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Somebody check and see if he did any subcontract work for the Big Dig in Boston.


27 posted on 07/09/2006 4:17:05 PM PDT by IronJack
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"....that included earthquake retrofit work on the Golden Gate Bridge and the Bay Bridge. By 2003, his Pacific Cement venture was supplying a third of the concrete used in San Francisco's public works projects."

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Where are the core sample test results? This stuff should have been tested at each pour. The licensed Professional Engineers in charge of each of these projects should have their license revoked, then fine the hell out of them. They each defrauded the taxpayers as much as the concrete supplier did.


33 posted on 07/09/2006 4:57:33 PM PDT by HighWheeler (A true liberal today is a combination of socialist, fascist, hypocrite, and anti-American.)
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I always feel a little uncomfortable driving over a bridge ---- built by the lowest bidder.


34 posted on 07/09/2006 4:59:06 PM PDT by Exit148 (Founder of the Loose Change Club. Every nickle and dime counts!!)
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San Francisco officials say Pacific Cement's concrete failed a "disproportionate'' number of strength tests in 2004 and 2005 as the company began to run into financial problems.

Back in a former life, I did materials testing for road construction. This should have been an issue THEN, WHEN THE TEST CYLINDERS FAILED.

Who was the guy in the DOT that looked the other way? He's just as guilty.

38 posted on 07/09/2006 5:24:44 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face.)
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Japan was having problems with concrete in the tunnels for their bullet train. It seems that the concrete company used beach sand. You are supposed to wash beach sand before using it in concrete to get the salt out. The contractors didn't. It started to fall apart.
43 posted on 07/09/2006 10:52:29 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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How’d this miserable little bastard manage to qualify for the minority programs? His business should have never gotten off the ground!


45 posted on 05/01/2007 6:12:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (G*d bless and heal Virginia Tech!)
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These set-aside programs often permit a minority bidder to win with a slightly higher price. This theoretically would allow the government to command equal or higher quality from the “disadvantaged” firm. You can command all you want but if you don’t have the mechanisms to ensure quality (good past performance record or some kind of good QA/QC procedures or measures on the materials and workmanship), this is what you will eventually get.


46 posted on 05/01/2007 6:17:56 AM PDT by jimfree (Freep and ye shall find)
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This dillrod could have had it all....too bad he blew it.


47 posted on 05/01/2007 6:22:59 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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