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To: puroresu; Ichneumon
Natural selection and evolution aren't the same thing.

I explained to you in my post what the relationship is. Your answer is no answer to it. I'll repeat. The only other component of evolution is variation. Do you not believe in that?

Unless you presume that all the current traits of every creature on earth existed within the original single cell that supposedly started all this.

False dichotomy. At one point, that guru of stealth creationism, Behe was claiming to believe this. Do you think mainstream science believes this? If you don't know what mainstream science even says on the subject, how do you know it's wrong?

Evolution requires countless millions of mutations to add new information.

A nice Ichneumon post regarding increases of information with some related ID nonsense disposed of along the way.

31 posted on 07/10/2006 7:06:01 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: VadeRetro
The only other component of evolution is variation.

Posting defensively, I'll anticipate a nitpick from the usual snide distractors and evaders. A case can be made for neutral drift having some role.

32 posted on 07/10/2006 7:08:01 AM PDT by VadeRetro (Faster than a speeding building; able to leap tall bullets at a single bound!)
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To: VadeRetro

I believe there's variation, of course. There has to be for selection to occur. Breeders of dogs and other animals take advantage of variation all the time.

But can the countless life forms that have existed on earth have come from a single original cell via mutations? It can be theorized that that occurred, but it does stretch the imagination, and I expect that's why the head of the human genome project is now suggesting that God has something to do with all this.

I've always said that evolution may be true. I'm not a scientist and thus not qualified to declare it to be impossible. But I do also believe in God and believe there is more to the universe and life than the material. I don't believe life can come from its absence, or that all the life on earth is the result of natural processes without God's handiwork being involved.


33 posted on 07/10/2006 7:18:21 AM PDT by puroresu
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To: VadeRetro; puroresu
If you've ever talked to vade Retro you find he cannot hold a coherent thought for long, makes no sense logically, and knows very little about evolution or biology.

But he is enamoured by others even more accomplished in similar prejudices and ignorances so he thinks he knows something and regurgitates things.

Case in point his evolution = variation + selection.

52 posted on 07/10/2006 8:45:37 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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159 posted on 07/12/2006 7:17:41 AM PDT by 2nsdammit (By definition it's hard to get suicide bombers with experience.)
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