Posted on 07/10/2006 6:44:48 AM PDT by Theodore R.
Reagan was good at setting out the ideal situation, but he was also prectical about when things would not work. We all want to live in heaven in which no one is sick or injured or hungary, but until there is a way to do that without destroying other good things, it won't work to simply open the borders to let them all in to run rough shod over everything. Even Reagan recognized that.
He never said we would give up our national soveriegnty to do it.
How do you post this and then react to posts referring to "open borders" in other threads as if support at any level of such an idea was pure myth?
Huh? If you'd rephrase your question into something understandable, I'd be happy to reply.
Let's see if I get this right. I see poster after poster saying that Reagan would never do what Bush is doing, that Reagan was a better president, etc.
I post some historical material that shows Reagan proposed totally open borders, and you think that's hypocritical because I've said on other threads that no one on this forum is an open borders person?
Color me confused.
Unless Reagan was posting in this forum, I stand by my statements. I've yet to see any freeper advocating totally open borders.
I do hope you tell me you understand the difference, because I sure as heck don't understand where you're coming from.
Who the hell says we can't. These are not people, these are illegal, undocumented, law breaking, medically dangerous, welfare sucking, tax cheating foreigners. The word people should apply to American citizens with legal social secuirty numbers who obey the law as we are all supposed to do.
Who the hell says we can't. These are not people, these are illegal, undocumented, law breaking, medically dangerous, welfare sucking, tax cheating foreigners. The word people should apply to American citizens with legal social secuirty numbers who obey the law as we are all supposed to do.
Well, how about the next time you see a freeper advocating open borders you ping me? I spend a fair amount of time here every day and I've never seen it.
As to Reagan, if you honestly consider someone who has been out of politics for nearly 20 years and is now dead as representative of the GOP, then I can understand why you don't agree with my statements. But I stand by them.
Reagan proposed the NAA which lead to NAFTA which has now brought us the the SPP and this "guest worker" program. Id say the idea clearly still lingers in the GOP even if the incrementalist approach has become the preferred method of achieving it.
You're exactly right.......all that's needed is to shut-off the welfare bennies and many of them will deport themselves......plus if some of these businesses find out they have to pay even an illegal a decent wage because the taxpayers will no longer forced to subsidize them it'll remove the incentive to even hire an illegal. How stupid are some ofthe gov't types that they can't figure this out?
"Tony Snow said it's like a traffic ticket."
Those with traffic tickets don't cost the taxpayers billions of dollars.
True enough. I don't have medical insurance any more because I cannot afford it. If I were illegal I would be getting free care (not that I want it).
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