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To: expat_panama

I sure disagree with the idiots that say America morally bankrupt and the way they harangue about the faults of the American people.   

I see, Americans are the epitomy of perfection with no faults to be corrected. Strange how the Representatives we elect or more propertly allow to be elected to positions of power from among us can be so lacking isn't it.

Those Court decisions and acts of Congress that you were earlier complaining as not being in accord with Constitutional principles don't come for out of a vacuum my friend. They come form core failings in our own makeup that clears the path for such representation.

Americans are good, strong and successful. 

And pretty much indifferent to there responsibilities in assuring good government.

No way in hell should we ever just through up our hands and say a collapse is inevitable.  

So far I do not see anyone suggesting that is what we must do. I however do see many alert to a need for changes.

We are not doomed.

Without substantive change in the attitudes of the American people in regards their expectations of government and participation in the processes of government, I would say we are not in an upward path.

First change must come among the American people in core principals virtues that are being eroded and have resulted in the representation that we have elected to power in government.

We get the government we allow, for "they" come from us and are us.

It is insufficient to just sit back and let someone else take care of it, indifferent to the political process that puts them there.

 

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."
--Edmund Burke (1729-1797)

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men."
- Plato -

 

To change that government that change must come first from within us as the electorate and thus responsible for the government that exists, there is no where else for it to come from.

244 posted on 07/13/2006 11:26:01 AM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it.)
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To: ancient_geezer
We get the government we allow, for "they" come from us and are us.

Maybe I'm following you better now.  I hear you saying you've screwed up because there's something wrong with your "attitudes" and "core principals virtues" and that this has ended up allowing a terrible state of affairs.

Personally, I seriously doubt that there's anything wrong with your virtues --although it's none of my business.  What is my business are the fiscal and monetary polices that you and I have gotten the hired help in Washington to carry out.  I agree that we have to keep a eye on them (it's so hard to get good help these days!) and personally I've been very pleased at the darn good job our government employees are doing.   

OK, lot's of people don't think so and they whimper that government workers like these are no good but imho the professional complainers are idiots.  America is a force for good.   The way I see it, our parents gave us a country that's in better shape than the one they got, and we've done the same for the next generation that's currently taking over.   They in turn, will continue the good work.   I like what these kids are already doing on entitlements (more here) but we can get back to specifics later.  The bottom line is that we've got a heck of a lot to be happy about.  A gloomy attitude is bad for the gastro-intestinal, it's a pain in the but for others, and to complain in the face of our Creator's generosity is down right blasphemous.

OK, I like philosophy as much as the next guy but how about we please drop all this gush stuff and get to work naming specific proposed legislation that we want passed, or a specific executive orders we want given.   Forget the SCOTUS.

249 posted on 07/14/2006 7:55:43 AM PDT by expat_panama
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