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FBI looking at Web site showing shooting of Quran
The Associated Press ^ | July 10, 2006

Posted on 07/10/2006 6:33:17 PM PDT by keat

CHATTANOOGA, Tenn. The F-B-I will look into an online video that shows two men shooting a Quran with a military rifle and then leaving the bullet-riddled holy book at a Chattanooga mosque.

F-B-I agent Tim Burke said the Washington-based Council on American-Islamic Relations asked the Justice Department to investigate the incident. He said no one from the Chattanooga Muslim community had complained.

Justice Department spokesman Eric Holland said the request would be reviewed carefully.

Ibrahim Hooper, a spokesman for the Islamic group, said the video may have been recorded in Chattanooga a year ago.

The video titled "kill the koran" was posted on MySpace-dot-com last month. It could still be seen on the Web site today.

A man on the Web site identifies himself as "mully88" and claims to live in Chattanooga. The author's profile lists as heroes (quote) "anybody that has killed a muslim or at least tried to kill a muslim." The site also contains slurs against Hispanics and blacks.

The video shows the man purchasing a Quran at a bookstore, going to a wooded area and shooting the book, then throwing it on the ground outside the door of the Chattanooga Islamic center.


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And if it were a Bible? Or a U.S. Flag?
1 posted on 07/10/2006 6:33:18 PM PDT by keat
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To: keat
He said no one from the Chattanooga Muslim community had complained.

They will now.
2 posted on 07/10/2006 6:35:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: keat

Give me one and I'll show you a picture of it with what would appear to be a large brown stain on it.


3 posted on 07/10/2006 6:35:21 PM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: keat
My Goodness....a "koran" was shot???? How can this Republic,how can this civilization recover from this?
4 posted on 07/10/2006 6:35:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: strange1

LOL! I was thinking the same thing.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 6:36:38 PM PDT by Slump Tester ( What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: keat

---The F-B-I will look into an online video that shows two men shooting a Quran with a military rifle and then leaving the bullet-riddled holy book at a Chattanooga mosque.---

Why? What law was broken? If you shoot up a Bible and drop it off at a church do you think the FBI is going to come looking for you?


6 posted on 07/10/2006 6:37:08 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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To: strange1
Give me one and I'll show you a picture of it with what would appear to be a large brown stain on it.

Oh, swell, now the FBI will be investigating the FR..... ;-)
7 posted on 07/10/2006 6:37:58 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Carry Daily, Apply Sparingly.)
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To: keat

Or a crucifix in a jar of urine..... Oh wait, such things are supposed to be tax-payer funded. Silly me.


8 posted on 07/10/2006 6:38:23 PM PDT by proud_yank (Truth to liberals is as useful as a snowblower in hell.)
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To: keat
The author's profile lists as heroes (quote) "anybody that has killed a muslim or at least tried to kill a muslim."

I suspect this is why the FBI is looking into it, not the shot Quran. Of course blaming it on the shot Quran makes a better headline I suppose.

9 posted on 07/10/2006 6:39:14 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: keat
Couple of good ol' boy dorks making THEIR free speech moment heard.

I laughed, I cried, but mostly I laughed. In a sane world no one would care that some paper was shredded.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&n=2&videoid=839295441

10 posted on 07/10/2006 6:39:53 PM PDT by monkeybrau
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To: keat
The video shows the man purchasing a Quran at a bookstore, going to a wooded area and shooting the book, then throwing it on the ground outside the door of the Chattanooga Islamic center.

Guilty of littering at most.

11 posted on 07/10/2006 6:41:43 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: keat

North Koran or South Koran?


12 posted on 07/10/2006 6:42:35 PM PDT by DainBramage
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To: keat
5 years in southeast Tennessee and I did not know that Chattanooga had a Mosque. There are at least 2 Lutheran Churches in town, though, so things are a bit progressive.

Honestly, I don't see the crime in shooting the Koran. There may be some kind of misdemeanor harrasment in dropping the book off at the Mosque, though.

13 posted on 07/10/2006 6:44:00 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: keat

What law was broken?


14 posted on 07/10/2006 6:45:42 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: Graybeard58
purchasing a Quran at a bookstore

Their biggest crime was paying retail. Oy!

15 posted on 07/10/2006 6:46:30 PM PDT by keat (I'm carbon neutral - how 'bout you?)
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To: claudiustg

Why this is only "Freedom of Speech". What's the problem?


16 posted on 07/10/2006 6:47:56 PM PDT by GlennLivett (Insula est scelestus interficio monastica quod Mohammed est abbas of totus monachus quod volutabrum.)
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To: monkeybrau
Thanks for the link.

Still don't see the crime. The guy called his gun an M-16, but if it was, it was the slowest-firing automatic in Tennessee.

This is a waste of FBI resources.

17 posted on 07/10/2006 6:49:16 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: meyer
Ya dropping that off at the local mosque was malicious, maybe they are aiming for their very own fatwa.

Just noticed the mason's symbol on the ball cap. Nice touch, they can fuel the conspiracy theories as this travels al-jazeera as it will undoubtedly.

18 posted on 07/10/2006 6:49:26 PM PDT by monkeybrau
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To: meyer
There may be some kind of misdemeanor harrasment in dropping the book off at the Mosque, though.

Since it was his property, it might qualify as a tax-deductible contribution.

19 posted on 07/10/2006 6:49:31 PM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: claudiustg
And here I was complaining that the FBI has become virtually incompetent in recent years (SEE:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1663283/posts?page=42#42 ,

and there they go demonstrating it for all the world to see right here in this thread.

20 posted on 07/10/2006 6:50:53 PM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: keat
And if it were a Bible? Or a U.S. Flag?

They would get a grant from the National Endowment for the Arts.

21 posted on 07/10/2006 6:51:27 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: meyer
Another story here at 'Nooga.com. Watch out - this site is popup heaven if you don't have your blocker on:

Click

The story is about 1/4 of the way down the page, below all the adverts.

22 posted on 07/10/2006 6:53:15 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: strange1

Give me one and I'll pour bacon grease over each and every page.


23 posted on 07/10/2006 6:53:54 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Mao said that power comes at the point of a rifle; I say FREEDOM does.)
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To: monkeybrau
Ya dropping that off at the local mosque was malicious, maybe they are aiming for their very own fatwa.

LOL - Starting a "fatwah" in Chattanooga is rather futile. We still hold Lookout and Signal Mountains! :)

24 posted on 07/10/2006 6:54:41 PM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
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To: keat

About that seperation of church and state thingy. I guess the FBI doesn't have much to do these days.


25 posted on 07/10/2006 6:56:38 PM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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26 posted on 07/10/2006 6:57:19 PM PDT by anglian
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To: meyer

what a bunch of nonsense.i would like to have two korans,one to s.......oh never mind.


27 posted on 07/10/2006 7:00:20 PM PDT by imahawk (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: claudiustg
Maybe it was an "assault" weapon.
28 posted on 07/10/2006 7:06:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: monkeybrau

Thanks for the video! I liked it a lot. Those guys are funnier than letterman and leno combined.

Errr, what? Why did I like the video? Because I love the 1st Amendment, I love the 2nd Amendment, and I love whichever amendment that protects that guy's right to do whatever he pleases with his property.

As to the denizens of the mosque or CAIR? When they get their cousins to stop killing and torturing our Soldiers, then they'll have the moral high ground to complain.


29 posted on 07/10/2006 7:06:46 PM PDT by MyDogAllah
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To: strange1

I have been using one in my bathroom for weeks. Cheaper than tiolet paper and much more fun to deficate on.


30 posted on 07/10/2006 7:08:06 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: keat

Look for hundreds of desecrated-koran web sites to blossom in the next week or so. Wonder what uses people will find for it.


31 posted on 07/10/2006 7:28:53 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: monkeybrau
I laughed, I cried, but mostly I laughed.
 
Thanks for the link! That was awsome, the second guy was a much better shot.

32 posted on 07/10/2006 7:30:08 PM PDT by backinthefold (banoonie baloni?)
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To: gotribe

Exactly what is wrong with this statement?

"Chattanooga Muslim community"


How on earth do we have a Muslim community in Chattanooga?


33 posted on 07/10/2006 7:48:23 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: plain talk
The author's profile lists as heroes (quote) "anybody that has killed a muslim or at least tried to kill a muslim."

Richard I Lionheart

Slaughter In The Desert

Beha-ed-Din was a member of Saladin's court and (along with much of the Saracen army who watched from a distance) witnessed the massacre of 2,700 of his comrades:

"Then the king of England, seeing all the delays interposed by the Sultan to the execution of the treaty, acted perfidiously as regards his Musulinan prisoners. On their yielding the town he had engaged to grant their life, adding that if the Sultan carried out the bargain he would give them freedom and suffer them to carry off their children and wives; if the Sultan did not fulfill his engagements they were to be made slaves. Now the king broke his promises to them and made open display of what he had till now kept hidden in his heart, by carrying out what he had intended to do after he had received the money and the Frank prisoners. It is thus that people of his nation ultimately admitted.

In the afternoon of Tuesday, 27 Rajab, [August 20] about four o'clock, he came out on horseback with all the Frankish army, knights, footmen, Turcoples, and advanced to the pits at the foot of the hill of Al 'Ayadiyeh, to which place be had already sent on his tents. The Franks, on reaching the middle of the plain that stretches between this hill and that of Keisan, close to which place the sultan's advanced guard had drawn back, ordered all the Musulman prisoners, whose martyrdom God had decreed for this day, to be brought before him. They numbered more than three thousand and were all bound with ropes. The Franks then flung themselves upon them all at once and massacred them with sword and lance in cold blood. Our advanced guard had already told the Sultan of the enemy's movements and he sent it some reinforcements, but only after the massacre. The Musulmans, seeing what was being done to the prisoners, rushed against the Franks and in the combat, which lasted till nightfall, several were slain and wounded on either side. On the morrow morning our people gathered at the spot and found the Musulmans stretched out upon the ground as martyrs for the faith. They even recognised some of the dead, and the sight was a great affliction to them. The enemy had only spared the prisoners of note and such as were strong enough to work.

The motives of this massacre are differently told; according to some, the captives were slain by way of reprisal for the death of those Christians whom the Musulmans had slain. Others again say that the king of England, on deciding to attempt the conquest of Ascalon, thought it unwise to leave so many prisoners in the town after his departure. God alone knows what the real reason was. "

References:
Beha-ed-Din, his account appears in Archer, T.A., The Crusade of Richard I (1889); Gillingham, John, The Life and Times of Richard I (1973).

How To Cite This Article:
"Richard The Lionheart Massacres The Saracens, 1191," EyeWitness to History, www.eyewitnesstohistory.com (2001).
34 posted on 07/10/2006 7:49:26 PM PDT by seowulf
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To: CheyennePress

We have them in Delaware, Ohio. They're everywhere, go figure.


35 posted on 07/10/2006 7:50:02 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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To: cripplecreek
"FBI looking at Web site showing shooting of Quran"

Me too, except my pants are off.

36 posted on 07/10/2006 7:50:29 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: keat
Hey CAIR, in the US people can desecrate any damn thing they want to as long as it is not the property of someone else.
37 posted on 07/10/2006 7:52:53 PM PDT by msnimje (There is no way we can lose if we stay in Iraq and no way we can win if we cut and run.)
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To: cripplecreek
The video shows the man purchasing a Quran at a bookstore, going to a wooded area and shooting the book, then throwing it on the ground outside the door of the Chattanooga Islamic center.

Sounds like exercise of free speech but he just went about it the wrong way. He should have taken his playbook from the liberals and did it with the help of the National Endowment for the Arts. Sort of like that Christ figure in urine. At least this guy didn't spend any tax money setting up his webpage.
38 posted on 07/10/2006 7:54:35 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: keat
"shooting a Quran with a military rifle and then leaving the bullet-riddled holy book at a Chattanooga mosque.

These guys did it the hard way. So they are uncreative and stupid.

Throw a Quran in a bucket and leave in the men's room of a Mexican bar and let nature take it's course:)

In '04 I got a lady friend to load John Kerry toilet paper in a bunch of ladies' rooms and the results were fun to watch from a distance:)

You don't need guns to do this stuff. When AD AF, my buddy and I pulled off some astounding ones in Europe. Only feelings were hurt:) They had the pitchforks out but we were never there to be found:) Well-earned Honorable Discharges for both of us:):):)

39 posted on 07/10/2006 7:55:03 PM PDT by BobS
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To: keat

Sounds like free speech to me. The FBI should investigate real crime.


40 posted on 07/10/2006 7:55:41 PM PDT by KenmcG414 (wHAT'ST)
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To: keat

If it had been a U.S. flag or Bible it would have been o.k. to do that.

Free speech you know.

However, since it pertains to TRoP, it is a whole different ballgame.


41 posted on 07/10/2006 7:57:35 PM PDT by sport
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To: monkeybrau

Looks more like a flag. Got a link to the pix you are referring to? Thanks.


42 posted on 07/10/2006 8:02:27 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: KenmcG414

They will probably try to bring the guy up on some kind of trumped up Hate Crime charge.


43 posted on 07/10/2006 8:10:45 PM PDT by Husker24
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To: monkeybrau

HA HA HA Those guys are great!

Maybe the FBI wants to hire them? I take my previous post back. These guys know the art:):)

44 posted on 07/10/2006 8:11:38 PM PDT by BobS
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To: keat

Sounds like someone trying to make things more difficult for our forces in the Middle East. Certainly nothing that a conservative or patriot would do.

Either that or a drunk ahole.


45 posted on 07/10/2006 8:12:25 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: monkeybrau

Since this incident provides fodder for the terrorist propaganda machine and makes life more difficult for our foreign policy any serious person understands this is no laughing matter.


46 posted on 07/10/2006 8:14:22 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
"Either that or a drunk ahole."

No, you can't shoot an M-16 that accurately drunk. Or anything else.

47 posted on 07/10/2006 8:21:49 PM PDT by BobS
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To: keat
uh Oh, I had some bad Mexican food, looks like another chapter to add...
48 posted on 07/10/2006 8:23:27 PM PDT by strange1 ("Show the enemy harm so he shall not advance" Sun Tzu The Art of War)
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To: keat

And if it were a Bible? Or a U.S. Flag?

Why the feebes would be providing free marksmenship training to the Muslims of course!


49 posted on 07/10/2006 8:24:28 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: anglian

LOL!


50 posted on 07/10/2006 8:26:19 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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