Open Letter to the GOP

Human Events Online ^ | 07-11-06 | Caruba, Alan

[Howlin]

Never mind all that; some people are determined to hand this country back over the the liberals.

[zeaal]

I return my request for funds letter with a reply and NO contribution.

[conservativecorner]

Report Illegals

[conservativecorner]

When you have Bubba and Carter praising your Immigration Plan it might be a clue that you are the liberal side.

[af_vet_rr]

I don't understand President Bush's take on the immigration issue either,

I completly understand his take - this isn't about him as the President, this is about him as the figurehead of the GOP (even if he doesn't run the GOP directly) and how the GOP has been changing its image over the past decade or so. This is about future elections and pulling in future voters, and about not turning potential voters off to the GOP.

The only reason we are talking about border security (9/11 should have been a good enough reason, but it wasn't) is because the news was slow for a while, and the media picked up on a few stories, including the Minutemen (I can't give enough credit to them, I don't think people realize how hard they worked to get the media spotlight shined on the border). These stories, to the surprise of many, snowballed.

Sure, border security/illegal immigration were talking points of the GOP, but they were given lip service only, just like many other things - I remember Bush saying he'd use the power of veto to help reign in the size and power of the government, and he hasn't. That's just one good example (fresh on my mind, because he *might* actually veto something soon, keyword being *might*).

[Howlin]

FGS, find another thread to carp about that on.

People are sick of seeing that on every single thread.

[gogeo]

Back when I hired minimum wage range employees, I figured that I needed to pay enough and not be an inflamed hemmorhoid boss.

I guess that shows how far we have come, because now if you can't hire help, it's everyone else's fault.

Pay more, dumb$hit!

[conservativecorner]

What people are you talking about?

[conservativecorner]

We pulled 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, so please tell me where the built in Conservative values are with Hispanics?

[ichabod1]

Somebody's head should roll over that one. Hopefully some of them that like to push people around so much.

[conservativecorner]

Touche' BUMP!

[BlackbirdSST]

When you have Bubba and Carter praising your Immigration Plan it might be a clue that you are the liberal side.

I understand that the 10percenter's are tired of seeing this sort of thing, LOL! All more the reason to keep it coming. Blackbird.

[TexasPatriot8]

This kind of apathy is more dangerous than the liberal Democrats, and is more likely to help create a Democrat majority in Congress than anything the Democrats do themselves. Stopping fiscal support for the GOP isn't the answer. Demanding accountability when donating IS the answer. All these conservative people who fold their arms and huff and puff and have their temper tantrum and won't still donate a little money will only serve to give democrats a financial edge in close elections. I am not thrilled with the milk toast moderate GOP attitude the past few years either, but the response should be stronger support and demanding conservative responses to problems, not apathy and threatening to take your toys and leave if you don't get what you want.

Anyone who contemplates not donating to the GOP and becomming more vocal to the GOP about them acting like conservatives really needs to think which is worse. A Republican majority that has to be fussed at to act like the conservatives they were elected to be, or a Democrat majority that will be all liberal all the time, as a way of penalizing the GOP for not being conservative enough. Frankly, I'd rather have the former and NOT the latter. A Democrat majority only hurts the country, and proves nothing. Donate to and support the Republican party, but demand change and strong conservative behavior from them. THAT is the way to go. Not hissy fits and tantrums.

"Who's more irrational? The guy who believes in a God he can't see? Or the guy who is offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" Brad Stine

[pabianice]

Ouch.

Yesterday Tom Delay refused to predict who would control Congress after the November election but, between the lines, suggested that the Repubs know they are going to lose both houses. Goodbye another sane SCOTUS justice. This will be perhaps Bush's greatest failure.

[conservativecorner]

Still no answer. What people would you be referring to when you say that folks are sick of seeing facts on Illegal Immigration? I know you are an open borders advocate, so you are one of those people. Most Conservatives are against this shamnesty being proposed by the President and Senate. You don't like the facts, TOUGH!

[Howlin]

Still no answer.

This isn't a thread about immigration. Take it somewhere else.

[TexasPatriot8]

If RINO's lose, you will see a Democrat majority in January, and you think you're peeved now, how about then? This mindset is a scortched Earth policy. I'd LOVE it if the conservative social and fiscal mindset was the loud driving force behind ALL GOP policy and action, but right now, that isn't happening. But better a milk toast Republican majority with RINOs as a tie breakers, than a Democrat majority. How much do you think the Democrats will care about the frustrated Conservative movement when they're in the Senate majority? Huh? People really need to think before they do something stupid and help create a democrat Majority.

I've ranted for months here, and years before being here, about how frustrated I am with RINOs and the apparent lack of willingness of Republicans to reflect the majority conservative thought among Americans, but having a hissy fit and refusing to support the GOP will NOT fix the problem. It will only force already embattled Republican candidates to try and win with less money, and help create a Democrat majority. That's reality. Conservatives need to at some point get a clue about the fact that a weaker RINO in fested Republican majority is doing FAR LESS damage to this country than a liberal Democrat majority WILL do. I'm amazed so many conservatives can't see and understand that. It's so elementary!

[Howlin]

All more the reason to keep it coming. Blackbird.

To: nmh

This isn't a thread about Illegal Immigration. Either stay on topic or stay off this thread. Thanks.

120 posted on 05/05/2006 1:31:25 PM EDT by Admin Moderator

DUH.

[TexasPatriot8]

I think that's a bit over reaching. The past couple months there has been nothing going the Democrat's way. The economy is great and every week or so there's another suprise benchmark that no one expected; housing, unemployment, new home sales, stock market, GDP, etc.

The war is increasingly better than the Democrats wish. What the troops say about it is totally different than the MSM and Democrats. That silently resounds with most Americans.

The immigration and border issue is solidly an advantage for Republicans, considering ALL those who are vocal about REAL immigration reform, REAL border security, and deporting illegals, are Republicans.

80% or more of Americans also oppose gay marriage and democrats support it. only 15% of gays support gay marriage, but the radical few flame on and seriously irritate the majority of the country. Don't believe for sone second people won't go vote for Republicans just to oppose gay marriage. They will, in droves.

Same with partial birth abortion. The overwhelming majority of Americans oppose it, and you can't hardly find a Democrat that will oppose it, or even comment on it, while most all Republicans oppose it vocally.

Democrats are against those things and 80% or more of Americans want them. So exactly what winning issue do the democrats have? There isn't one.

The democrats will not win the House, and it's a long shot that they'll win the Senate. When push comes to shove, this is still individual races we're talking about, and issues rule the day when people cast their votes, regardless of what the polls show, and there's nothing the democrats have been right about. The war, the economy, border control, immigration, gay marriage, tax cuts, partial birth abortion. The GOP is the only party with a shot to win that is on the winning side of those issues which is reflected by the clear majority of Americans. And how some long time democrats say they'll vote in polls, and what they actually do in the voting booth, when just them and God see what they're voting, well those are two totally different things. If I was a Democrat, I wouldn't be measuring any curtains just yet. They will not win the House. And they will not with the Senate. Unless most Americans wake up and decide to go vote for candidates that support the opposite positions than the voters support. That's the only way democrats will win majorities in Congress.

"Who's more irrational? The guy who believes in a God he can't see? Or the guy who is offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" Brad Stine

[Deb]

All these whining, anti-GOP threads are pathetic and tiresome. Maybe all you malcontents should watch more C-SPAN. Yesterday they showed a hearing called by the Democrats to condemn the Bush administration and the GOP for undoing and trashing everything Clinton accomplished in his eight horrific years.

For hours the ACLU, People For the American Way, feminist groups, Latino groups, Asian groups and black civil rights loonies listed case after case where the administration, the GOP and this justice dept. has knocked down, thrown out and just walked away from the zillions of Democrat's socialist programs and leftist activist cases against the country.

I am truly disgusted with the constant complaining and head-holding...mostly because it's so uninformed.