Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Why is LBJ's name NEVER mentioned by liberals?
July 11, 2006

Posted on 07/11/2006 6:14:32 AM PDT by InvisibleChurch

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141 next last
To: ko_kyi

You got it. The inconvenient fact that he pulled the troops out of Vietnam is ignored. That he didn't pull them out immediately was held to be awful his opponents wanted an immidate take-over of South Viet Nam by the North. The majority of the casualties that we took in Nam occured before Nixon took office, but you would never know that.


81 posted on 07/11/2006 7:13:40 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster

I think Carter's domestic policy was pretty bad. Consider this, under Carter we had high taxes, high unemployment, multiple recessions, high interest rates, sky-high inflation, and the stock market lost value during his administration. The irony is that based on normal economic models, the economy during the Peanut Farmer years isn't even possible (high unemployment, high inflation and high interest rates shouldn't coexist, they should start cancelling each other out).


82 posted on 07/11/2006 7:14:29 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: MinorityRepublican
Let's discuss here. If LBJ was a liberal, then what was up with his involvement in Vietnam?

I spent all of 1970 in Cam Rahn Bay, RVN. The most common rumor at the time was that the three biggest civilian contracting companies were owned by Lady Bird Johnson. The companies were Pacific Architects & Engineers, CN&T (a stevedoring firm) and Alaskan Barge & Transport.

It was also common knowledge during this time period that LBJ entered politics at a young age as a poor man but died a rich man while never holding a job in private sector. My opinion is that he got rich on the blood of my fellow vets.

As an aside; I was stationed at NAF Washington (Andrews Air Force Base) upon my return to the states, and was there when LBJ died. As he was a former Navy man, I was one of those initially selected for an all Navy poll bearer group for him. At first I vigorously objected to this assignment due to my extreme dislike for him, but on reflection I acquiesced thinking that at least it would put me first in line to piss on his grave. I got a reprieve at the last minute when they decided on a last minute multi-service group of poll bearers.

83 posted on 07/11/2006 7:15:12 AM PDT by Retired COB (Still mad about Campaign Finance Reform)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: wagglebee

I wouldn't argue that for a second. But the vastly expanded social welfare system produced by LBJ's Great Society programs has been much costlier over the long haul. Most, if not all, of Carter's domestic policay damage was repaired over Reagan's terms. LBJ's is the gift that keeps on giving, even today.


84 posted on 07/11/2006 7:19:03 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster

...and then there's The Bird's "Beautification Project."


85 posted on 07/11/2006 7:20:15 AM PDT by bannie (The government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
You don't see libs talking up the Carter years either.

Sad to say that some are doing exactly that. The Clinton years are too close to the present for comfort and the presence of Hillary on the political stage keeps Clinton nostalgia to a minimum (so far).

We had a recent post from one of those dangerously-uninformed-idealistic student editorial writers who thought that Carter was a fantastic president and that we need another one (perish the thought).

86 posted on 07/11/2006 7:20:52 AM PDT by relictele
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 55 | View Replies]

To: oldleft
To be a good Liberal nowadays who have to hate America. No matter what you think about his policies LBJ thought America was the best damn country on the planet (and he was right.)

That is the truth!

87 posted on 07/11/2006 7:21:33 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: InvisibleChurch
You might want to read Barr McClellan's book "Blood, Money & Power: How L.B.J. Killed J.F.K.".

It is a very revealing picture of LBJ's personality. McClellan worked as a lawyer for a company which LBJ did his business exclusively. He should have known him well.

88 posted on 07/11/2006 7:23:21 AM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Retired COB

LBJ got rich because he was the bagman for the oil companies. His success as Senate leader had less to do with his personal persuavive powers than his ability to fund--or not fund-- his fellow senators re-election campaigns. He thought that the access to this money would give him the Democratic nomination in 1960, but he didn't count on Joe Kennedy's willingness to spend his fortune to elect Jack.


89 posted on 07/11/2006 7:26:08 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: FreedomPoster
""...Vietnam was a huge war of economic attrition in the 70 Years War against the Soviets, one they couldn't afford."

I believe the Soviet's invasion of Afghanistan in 1979, along with Reagan's defense build-up in the 1980's, were the proximate causes of the Soviet Union's collapse. In the run-up to that invasion, Z. Brzezinski, Carter's national security advisor, wrote to Carter that "We now have the opportunity of giving to the USSR its Vietnam war ..." by providing aid to the mujahadeen. This assistance was one of the few correct things that Carter did on the foreign-policy front.
90 posted on 07/11/2006 7:34:47 AM PDT by riverdawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 78 | View Replies]

To: RobbyS

Johnson was a terrible human being. His long time lawyer Barr McClellan has written a book: BLOOD, HONOR, MONEY, AND POLITICS, HOW LBJ KILLED JFK. This was his PERSONAL attorney of thirty years!.

In it he tells how his boss Ed Clark, another close friend and financial advisor to Johnson was put in charge or organizing the JFK assassination.

This book is a bombshell. Never heard of it have you? THAT'S BECAUSE THE MSM HAS BOYCOTTED IT.

Cronkite, Rather, Huntley, Binkley, Smith, Reasoner, long-time US media types COVEREDUP the murder of the President of the United States and the major networks will not cover this.


91 posted on 07/11/2006 7:36:00 AM PDT by kjo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: riverdawg

I don't think Carter had much to do with it, re: Afghanistan. And Reagan much less than I once thought.

I highly recommend Charlie Wilson's War, on the subject.


92 posted on 07/11/2006 7:38:02 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: rhombus

Actually, we can go back to Woodrow Wilson for Vietnam. Ho Chi Minh tried to speak with Wilson at the peace negotiations for World War I. Ho Chi Minh was a fan of the west at that time, and wanted to get Wilson's help to get France out of Vietnam, then French Indochina. Wilson not only refused to speak with him, but insulted him as well. Ho Chi Minh sought help from the Communists instead.


93 posted on 07/11/2006 7:45:38 AM PDT by Military family member (GO Colts!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: InvisibleChurch
Johnson = Vietnam War, the war the cowardly Libs ran from.

Vietnam War = Abandoning SE Asia to 30 years of communist horror, 20 million people slaughtered by the commies, and a present of poverty, illiteracy, desease, and all the rest of communism's blessings

94 posted on 07/11/2006 7:47:01 AM PDT by pabianice
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Military family member
Wilson not only refused to speak with him, but insulted him as well.

What did he say? "I refuse to speak to someone who smells like goats?"

95 posted on 07/11/2006 7:47:50 AM PDT by rhombus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 93 | View Replies]

To: kjo

I'm not much on conspiracies. A good case can be made that Stanton was aware of the plot to decapitate the federal Government in 1865, with Stanton making himself dictator. It might have worked if the assassin who was supposed to kill Johnson had not lost his nerve. Another assassin came within a hair of killing the secretary of State who was third in line. The Treasury secretary, who was next in line, could never have stood up to Stanton.


96 posted on 07/11/2006 7:48:33 AM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: InvisibleChurch

Even John Kerry believed that Nixon was President in 1968.

It's Viet Nam.


97 posted on 07/11/2006 7:51:45 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ko_kyi
LBJ isn't mentioned because they want to pretend that the Vietnam War was thought up by Nixon.

I remember wondering back at Christmastime '68, why did President Nixon ever get us into this crazy war? It's seared into my brain.

98 posted on 07/11/2006 7:57:10 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Libertina; Maynerd; Bobsvainbabblings; moneypenny; Kaylee Frye; Clintonfatigued; wallcrawlr; ...
Why just yesterday the National Association of Secretaries of State gave him an award!
"NASS President and Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed nominated Johnson for the award and expressed his admiration for the former president’s political courage."
Sam Reed is WA states RINO (he might as well be a Democrat) Secretary of State.

Thanks to SW6906 for the post.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
Say WA? Evergreen State ping

FReepmail sionnsar if you want on or off this ping list.

Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

99 posted on 07/11/2006 7:57:43 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† | Iran Azadi | SONY: 5yst3m 0wn3d, N0t Y0urs | NYT:Jihadi Journal)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: InvisibleChurch
He wore boots, a stetson and rode a horse?


100 posted on 07/11/2006 8:15:45 AM PDT by shiva
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 141 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson