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Novak: My role in Plame leak probe (LEAKER = JOE WILSON ???)
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | July 12, 2006 | ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST

Posted on 07/12/2006 3:55:19 AM PDT by Chi-townChief

WASHINGTON -- Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has informed my attorneys that, after 2-1/2 years, his investigation of the CIA leak case concerning matters directly relating to me has been concluded. That frees me to reveal my role in the federal inquiry that, at the request of Fitzgerald, I have kept secret.

I have cooperated in the investigation while trying to protect journalistic privileges under the First Amendment and shield sources who have not revealed themselves. I have been subpoenaed by and testified to a federal grand jury. Published reports that I took the Fifth Amendment, made a plea bargain with the prosecutors or was a prosecutorial target were all untrue.

For nearly the entire time of his investigation, Fitzgerald knew -- independent of me -- the identity of the sources I used in my column of July 14, 2003. A federal investigation was triggered when I reported that former Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame Wilson, was employed by the CIA and helped initiate his 2002 mission to Niger. That Fitzgerald did not indict any of these sources may indicate his conclusion that none of them violated the Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

Presidential adviser Karl Rove talks with columnist Robert Novak at a party celebrating the 40th anniversary of Novak’s column in June 2003. Rove’s button reads, “I’m a source, not a target.” (AP)

Some journalists have badgered me to disclose my role in the case, even demanding I reveal my sources -- identified in the column as two senior Bush administration officials and an unspecified CIA source. I have promised to discuss my role in the investigation when permitted by the prosecution, and I do so now.

The news broke Sept. 26, 2003, that the Justice Department was investigating the CIA leak case. I contacted my longtime attorney, Lester Hyman, who brought his partner at Swidler Berlin, James Hamilton, into the case. Hamilton urged me not to comment publicly on the case, and I have followed that advice for the most part.

The FBI soon asked to interview me, prompting my first major decision. My attorneys advised me that I had no certain constitutional basis to refuse cooperation if subpoenaed by a grand jury. To do so would make me subject to imprisonment and inevitably result in court decisions that would diminish press freedom, all at heavy personal legal costs.

Sources signed waivers

I was interrogated at the Swidler Berlin offices on Oct. 7, 2003, by an FBI inspector and two agents. I had not identified my sources to my attorneys, and I told them I would not reveal them to the FBI. I did disclose how Valerie Wilson's role was reported to me, but the FBI did not press me to disclose my sources.

On Dec. 30, 2003, the Justice Department named Fitzgerald as special prosecutor. An appointment was made for Fitzgerald to interview me at Swidler Berlin on Jan. 14, 2004. The problem facing me was that the special prosecutor had obtained signed waivers from every official who might have given me information about Wilson's wife.

That created a dilemma. I did not believe blanket waivers in any way relieved me of my journalistic responsibility to protect a source. Hamilton told me that I was sure to lose a case in the courts at great expense. Nevertheless, I still felt I could not reveal their names.

However, on Jan. 12, two days before my meeting with Fitzgerald, the special prosecutor informed Hamilton that he would be bringing to the Swidler Berlin offices only two waivers. One was by my principal source in the Valerie Wilson column, a source whose name has not yet been revealed. The other was by presidential adviser Karl Rove, whom I interpret as confirming my primary source's information. In other words, the special prosecutor knew the names of my sources.

When Fitzgerald arrived, he had a third waiver in hand -- from Bill Harlow, the CIA public information officer who was my CIA source for the column confirming Mrs. Wilson's identity. I answered questions using the names of Rove, Harlow and my primary source.

Testified before grand jury

I had a second session with Fitzgerald at Swidler Berlin on Feb. 5, 2004, after which I was subpoenaed to appear before the grand jury. I testified there at the U.S. courthouse in Washington on Feb. 25.

In these four appearances with federal authorities, I declined to answer when the questioning touched on matters beyond the CIA leak case. Neither the FBI nor the special prosecutor pressed me.

Primary source not revealed

I have revealed Rove's name because his attorney has divulged the substance of our conversation, though in a form different from my recollection. I have revealed Harlow's name because he has publicly disclosed his version of our conversation, which also differs from my recollection. My primary source has not come forward to identify himself.

When I testified before the grand jury, I was permitted to read a statement that I had written expressing my discomfort at disclosing confidential conversations with news sources. It should be remembered that the special prosecutor knew their identities and did not learn them from me.

In my sworn testimony, I said what I have contended in my columns and on television: Joe Wilson's wife's role in instituting her husband's mission was revealed to me in the middle of a long interview with an official who I have previously said was not a political gunslinger. After the federal investigation was announced, he told me through a third party that the disclosure was inadvertent on his part.

Following my interview with the primary source, I sought out the second administration official and the CIA spokesman for confirmation.

I learned Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who in America.

I considered his wife's role in initiating Wilson's mission, later confirmed by the Senate Intelligence Committee, to be a previously undisclosed part of an important news story. I reported it on that basis.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia; US: Illinois; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: cialeak; fitzmas; gwot; iraq; libby; novak; plame; rove; waronterror; wilson; wot
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"I learned Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who in America."

Sounds like Wilson should get his ass frog-marched in front of a judge.
1 posted on 07/12/2006 3:55:22 AM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

...Joe DNC operative Wilson,
who would have guessed ?(sarc!)


2 posted on 07/12/2006 3:58:06 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Chi-townChief

I'd rather the lying traitor get frog-marched out of the country. Forever.

Way to go, Karl!!!


3 posted on 07/12/2006 3:58:23 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Chi-townChief

Last night the MSM sniffed that Novak was trying to resurrect his failed career. Not a word about Joe Wilson, etc..


4 posted on 07/12/2006 3:59:46 AM PDT by hershey
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To: Chi-townChief
Presidential adviser Karl Rove talks with columnist Robert Novak at a party celebrating the 40th anniversary of Novak’s column in June 2003. Rove’s button reads, “I’m a source, not a target.” (AP)

CLASSIC!

5 posted on 07/12/2006 4:01:00 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: The G Man

6 posted on 07/12/2006 4:01:37 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: IrishMike

Lets hook him up with Bill Burkett... then we do Cooper & Miller with RATher & Mapes. How about Richard Armitage with Lucy Ramirez?


7 posted on 07/12/2006 4:06:25 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: Chi-townChief

Didn't he (Wilson) make a fortune on a book about this matter?


8 posted on 07/12/2006 4:06:48 AM PDT by kempster
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To: Chi-townChief
Published reports that I took the Fifth Amendment, made a plea bargain with the prosecutors or was a prosecutorial target were all untrue.

I guess you just can't believe what you read in the papers...

9 posted on 07/12/2006 4:07:08 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: johnny7

...Lets hook him up with Bill Burkett... then we do Cooper & Miller with RATher & Mapes. How about Richard Armitage with Lucy Ramirez?

THAT IS A PLAN.


10 posted on 07/12/2006 4:09:04 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: kempster

From Amazon

The Politics of Truth: Inside the Lies that Led to War and Betrayed My Wife's CIA Identity: A Diplomat's Memoir - Joseph Wilson


11 posted on 07/12/2006 4:10:30 AM PDT by kempster
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To: The G Man

Well, it is actually Novak the bastard. I knew the second I saw his labeling of Wilson's wife as a CIA operative that he'd screwed up. That factoid was not needed for his story. The news items was How did a nut like Wilson get the gig to Niger? Well, his wife set it up for him. There was never any administration conspiracy to out the woman. The administration wanted to make clear that (a) Cheney did not send him and (b) Wilson was a fool who was then and there blasting the administration (and who was later found by the Senate to be lying through his teeth). Fair to fight back. But dumass Novak made himself the story, and caused a lot of needless trouble for many people.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 4:11:57 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: RandallFlagg
It's time to get Wilsons ass in that Grand Jury room and put him under oath.

L

13 posted on 07/12/2006 4:12:33 AM PDT by Lurker (2 months and still no Bill from Congressman Pence. What is he milking squids for the ink?)
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To: IrishMike

The lastest AP article does not even MENTION Joe Wilson!


14 posted on 07/12/2006 4:13:56 AM PDT by VA40
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To: Chi-townChief
A lot of things here:

15 posted on 07/12/2006 4:15:06 AM PDT by AmishDude (Posting from Budapest.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Although I gleefully followed the DUmmie FUnnies recount of Fitzmas/Hoaxmas and the non-indictment of Karl Rove, I haven't really followed the whole Plame-Gate story very closely because I considered it so much B.S. So let me see if I have this straight - A CIA agent, Plame, who may have been covert at one time but wasn't at any pertinent times to this affair, pushed to get her husband ,Wilson, appointed to a mission to Niger to investigate whether Saddam tried to buy yellow cake. Wilson, a now well-known political activist for the left, finds nothing to the yellow cake claim (after thorough investigation conducted from his hotel lobby). (Side note-Brit intel stands behind the yellow cake claim).

When Novak revealed that Plame was Wilson's wife and a CIA agent, people got their panties in a wad because you can't reveal a CIA agent's identity, so Novak's source broke the law. Only Plame wasn't covert at the time so no law was broken. But Scooter Libby, Cheney COS, was indicted because he allegedly lied to the special prosecutor who was investigating the non-crime. Now Novak's article confirms that Rove was a corroborating source, as the prosecutor already knew and didn't consider significant. But is it news that Wilson outed his own wife? I've been hearing this for a while. Somebody set me straight on this and other pertinent details. Thanks


16 posted on 07/12/2006 4:17:00 AM PDT by Sharkfish
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To: Lurker
I knew this pic would come in handy again.....

17 posted on 07/12/2006 4:20:48 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: Chi-townChief
Hm, I guess I still don't get it. Mr. X revealed that Wilson's wife is a CIA agent, apparently without mentioning her name. Mr. Novak then looked her name up in Who's Who.

So, if anyone “leaked” anything here, then what was leaked is the information that Wilson's wife, whatever her name, was a CIA agent. So, the leaker isn't Wilson but Mr. X, and we're none the wiser.

18 posted on 07/12/2006 4:22:34 AM PDT by cartan
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To: VA40

....The lastest AP article does not even MENTION Joe Wilson!



Surprised ???


19 posted on 07/12/2006 4:24:29 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Lurker

Get his b*tch up there with'em.


20 posted on 07/12/2006 4:28:06 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: VA40

"The lastest AP article does not even MENTION Joe Wilson!"

Local DC Fox News 5 just ran it, focusing on Rover and leaving it unresolved whether he may or may not be indicted in the future.

Not one word about Novak.

But then again, Novak still hasn't disclosed the name of his "primary" source.


21 posted on 07/12/2006 4:28:34 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Chi-townChief


It is unfortunate, that this matter has resulted in a circus over a non-issue.

The truth here is that the yellowcake assertion still has merit and that Joe Wilson was sent by his wife on a political mission, not a fact-finding mission.


22 posted on 07/12/2006 4:28:37 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party will not exist in a few years....we are watching history unfold before us.)
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To: cartan

"So, the leaker isn't Wilson but Mr. X, and we're none the wiser."

Novak is being deliberately obtuse, but that's the way I read it as well.

The "primary source" provided a waiver to Fitzgerald, but apparently not to Novak.


23 posted on 07/12/2006 4:30:24 AM PDT by angkor
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To: shalom aleichem
Didn't Novak claim that White House officials gave him Plame's name and occupation? Wasn't he asked by the CIA not to print his name. His excuse, well they weren't that insistent that I not print her name.

Seems to me that Novak and the NYSlimes of two of the same ilk.

24 posted on 07/12/2006 4:31:04 AM PDT by OldFriend (I Pledge Allegiance to the Flag.....and My Heart to the Soldier Who Protects It.)
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To: shalom aleichem

"The news items was How did a nut like Wilson get the gig to Niger? Well, his wife set it up for him."

Which, if I read the FAR (Federal Acquisition Regulations) correctly and all the training I have had on the regulations would mean that she violated a federal law in getting a sole source contract for her husband. She and he should be in court for violation of a federal law, which several people have been tried, convicted and sent away for a long time for violating.

But then she and Joe are Democrats and Democrats can steal TOP Secret Documents and lie to federal Judges and commit Treason and no one seems to care.


25 posted on 07/12/2006 4:33:05 AM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: Chi-townChief


When I got up this morning this is the headline on Yahoo Home page: "Novak: Rove was a source in outing Plame"

No bias here!!!


26 posted on 07/12/2006 4:34:32 AM PDT by conservativehusker (GO BIG RED!!!!)
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To: angkor
Novak is being deliberately obtuse, but that's the way I read it as well.

He has to be in order to write his book that is unless some old FBI agent comes out and discloses himself before the book is written a la Deep Throat. I still get a laugh that Woodward and Bernstein were scooped by their own source. Ha, Ha, Ha!

27 posted on 07/12/2006 4:34:52 AM PDT by GWB00 (Barbara Streisand barely made it out of high school.)
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To: Sharkfish
Wilson, a now well-known political activist for the left, finds nothing to the yellow cake claim...

Actually Wilson found that there WAS substance to the Niger yellowcake claim. And that's what he reported at the time. It was only later when it became politically expedient to do so that he started going around de-bunking his own report.

Joe Wilson is an opportunistic liar through and through.

28 posted on 07/12/2006 4:41:41 AM PDT by John Valentine
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To: IrishMike; angkor

Why are all they all running with this carefully crafted "analysis" by the AP? (I know, no surprise really). Who ever wrote this one stayed up all night cleaning it up just the way they wanted it.


29 posted on 07/12/2006 4:41:54 AM PDT by VA40
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To: shalom aleichem
Well, it is actually Novak the bastard. I knew the second I saw his labeling of Wilson's wife as a CIA operative that he'd screwed up. That factoid was not needed for his story. The news items was How did a nut like Wilson get the gig to Niger?

So Novak was sposed to just say that 'Mrs. Wilson recommended Mr. Wilson for the mission to Niger' and leave it at that?

And wouldn't that be overlooking one of the rules of journalism...the WHO? As in, WHO is Mrs. Wilson (to have the stroke to be recommending folks for CIA missions)?

30 posted on 07/12/2006 4:43:24 AM PDT by elli1
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To: kempster
Didn't he (Wilson) make a fortune on a book about this matter?

Yeah, I think the cover looked like this:

31 posted on 07/12/2006 4:45:19 AM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Chi-townChief
I have revealed Rove's name because his attorney has divulged the substance of our conversation, though in a form different from my recollection. I have revealed Harlow's name because he has publicly disclosed his version of our conversation, which also differs from my recollection.

The Rats will go nuts over "a form different from my recollection." Also I heard on the local news radio station (a CBS affiliate) that Novak revealed the source of the leak...it was Rove. That's all they said, nothing about Wilson, nothing about a still unknown "primary source". But then they had to move on to cover more important things like sports, weather and traffic reports. ;-)

32 posted on 07/12/2006 4:49:35 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: YOUGOTIT
The real story in The Wilson Affair is the documentation of partisan political maneuvering on the part of the CIA. It's not that Valerie Plame was outted, it is that the CIA was outted. And that's the real reason why people got pissy.
33 posted on 07/12/2006 4:50:42 AM PDT by elli1
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To: VA40

....Why are all they all running with this carefully crafted "analysis" by the AP? (I know, no surprise really). Who ever wrote this one stayed up all night cleaning it up just the way they wanted it.



It's the same when W picked Dick Cheney, every network, cable news outlet and Newspaper all said the same thing...
he brings 'gravitas' to the ticket.
I had to look it up when I first heard it.
Rush frequently mentions this. They must have a 'think tank' where they (MSM) decide HOW something is reported !!!


34 posted on 07/12/2006 4:51:45 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Chi-townChief

Too bad the AP is running "Rove is the source in outing Plame" headline without a mention of the actual "who's who" entry..

These people are pathetic.


35 posted on 07/12/2006 4:54:19 AM PDT by newnhdad (All your government branches are belong to us!! not for long if this cr@p keeps up.)
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To: John Valentine

And Wilson's CIA paymasters were grossly negligent in not requiring a written report (instead of oral debriefing) or having JW sign a confidentiality agreement. It had to be classified that CIA wanted to know about yellow cake vis a vis Iraq. How was JW freely able to spread his story, then lie about it to boot? That is totally wrong.


36 posted on 07/12/2006 4:55:51 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: GWB00; VA40

"He has to be [obtuse] in order to write his book"

Fitzgerald brought him a waiver from the primary source.

Novak says he still needed to protect his primary source.

But he did reveal the names of Rove and the CIA staffer as confirming sources.

Did he ever reveal the name of the *primary* source to Fitzgerald or to the grand jury?

That's what I mean by obtuse. We don't know. And he's sure not telling.


37 posted on 07/12/2006 4:58:28 AM PDT by angkor
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To: AmishDude
I wonder what the substance of the "differed from my recollection" was all about. And doesn't Novak record his conversations?

I suspect his conversation was on the phone. Recording phone conversations in DC is not legal unless both parties agree to it.

We know that Rove's attorney said Rove told the Grand Jury that "I heard the same thing!" when asked to confirm Plame being Wilson's wife and that she had gotten her husband the job.

I suspect that Novak only told the Grand Jury that Rove did not confirm that Plame was Wilson's wife who got Wilson his job. "I have heard the same thing!" is not a confirmation. So Novak then contacted Harlow who did confirm that Plame was Wilson's wife and that she got her husband the job.

Note that Novak also says his recollection of his conversation with Harlow differs from Harlow's recollection.

If Rove "Remembered" things from their converstation that Novak "Forgot", then that explains the differences.

You can not indict Rove for "Remembering" something that Novak "Forgot."

It is also likely that Harlow "Remembered" things from his conversation that Novak "Forgot."

I think Novak is just saying to both Harlow and Rove... I tried not to "Remember" anything that might have given Fitzmas a reason indict you. If Novak "didn't remember" there can be on purjury indictment for Harlow or Rove.

38 posted on 07/12/2006 5:01:19 AM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Chi-townChief
I can't wait to see Coulter's next editorial, assuming this is the topic.
39 posted on 07/12/2006 5:02:45 AM PDT by RavenATB (Patton was right...)
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To: Chi-townChief
"I learned Valerie Plame's name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who in America."

Now we know why no one has been indicted for outing Valerie. No indictment because they couldn't indict anyone in the Bush Administration.

40 posted on 07/12/2006 5:05:01 AM PDT by grb
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To: newnhdad
Very few MSM outlets are reporting about the Who' Who entry because they're embarrassed after months of claiming it was Evil Rove's cynical plan.
41 posted on 07/12/2006 5:09:12 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: Chi-townChief

The Dinosaur press will begin attacking Novak as a Rove flak and this is no big deal. Meanwhile they leak national secrets about Swift Bank as if we needed to know for some unknown reason.

Motto of The Old York Times: If Bush Bleeds, It Leads.

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters


42 posted on 07/12/2006 5:09:56 AM PDT by bray (Jeb '08, just to watch their Heads Explode!)
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To: Sharkfish

You have it almost right. Wilson's trip to Niger did convince him that Saddam was trying to obtain yellow cake and he told the CIA that when he returned. This was an oral debriefing. Later Wilson wrote this big op-ed article about there being no attempt by Iraq to obtain uranium. A Senate committee later found unanimously that Wilson lied in his op-ed, that he did orally report that he found paydirt in Niger. But the media routinely ignores this established fact. Very frustrating. The American MSM is simply not reliable anymore. Makes room for the blogosphere and pajamhadeen.


43 posted on 07/12/2006 5:11:37 AM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Chi-townChief

Novak is trying to be cute. He still will not release the name of the primary source. The only thing he got from Wilsons entry in who's who is his wife's name, not her occupation.


44 posted on 07/12/2006 5:14:36 AM PDT by BadAndy ("Loud mouth internet Rambo")
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To: newnhdad
This is the headline on Yahoo most both Most Viewed and Most Emailed stories: Novak: Rove was a source in outing Plame

AP writer is Pete Yost.

45 posted on 07/12/2006 5:15:39 AM PDT by Alissa
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To: shalom aleichem
I tend to agree, and if the "source" was a "publication," then that has nothing whatsoever to do with "protecting" confidentiality.

BTW, tune in to Rush Limbaugh today: I'll be on, 2nd hour.

46 posted on 07/12/2006 5:24:38 AM PDT by LS
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To: elli1
The real story in The Wilson Affair is the documentation of partisan political maneuvering on the part of the CIA. It's not that Valerie Plame was outted, it is that the CIA was outted. And that's the real reason why people got pissy.

That was my thought from the beginning and there was briefly some talk about learning who approved it and the process involved. Unless that is in the Commission Report I never heard anymore about it. The MSM would certainly bury it because it is their guys, leftist traitors, who would be exposed.

47 posted on 07/12/2006 5:24:51 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done, needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Chi-townChief

Plame is having an affair now with James Bond.


48 posted on 07/12/2006 5:26:46 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Chi-townChief

Fitzgerald has been trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I predict that he will not convict anyone.


49 posted on 07/12/2006 5:27:12 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: BadAndy
Novak is trying to be cute. He still will not release the name of the primary source. The only thing he got from Wilsons entry in who's who is his wife's name, not her occupation.

Yes, after squinting at the article for a while, that's what I get, too. There were three sources, the primary source (not named), Rove and the CIA guy who signed a waver. After Novak heard Joe's wife was CIA, he used Who's Who to get her name.

50 posted on 07/12/2006 5:28:06 AM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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