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Why Arabs Lose Wars
Middle East Forum ^ | Dec 1999 | Norvell B. De Atkine (Col. Ret.)

Posted on 07/14/2006 7:05:59 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: Thermalseeker
Perhaps you are correct but his was a much more comprehensive approach based on his many years of experience with their military on a day to day basis refuted with examples from his personal experience.

I learned much more from reading his ideas and opinions than I did from your 11 word treatise.

61 posted on 07/14/2006 6:36:04 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: ASA Vet
I had the same link in my favorites a number of years ago. Very refreshing to read it again.

(adding this one to my favorites as we speak)

62 posted on 07/14/2006 6:50:45 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: perfect stranger
I learned much more from reading his ideas and opinions than I did from your 11 word treatise.

I wasn't trying to educate you, only summarize in a pity manner and WHOOSH, right over your head it went.

The end result is the same, regardless of how may words one uses. Doing the same behavior over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity. The players in this conflict have been repeating the same behavior for 2000 years and expecting different results. I can call that using only one word: Insane.

63 posted on 07/14/2006 6:51:09 PM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Thermalseeker

I understood your pithy manner. Thanks for the summary. Have a great weekend.


64 posted on 07/14/2006 6:55:14 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: Brilliant
"Mainly because they don't have the a-bomb. But that will change shortly."

Something is going to change shortly.

Allowing Trogladytes and/or Neanderthals to have Nukes is completely unacceptable.

Get ready for the glass factory tours in the the former Beacon of Light once known as Tehran.

The day is coming, and also by the way Damascus will be little more than a small word heard after the storm.

Google this:

"The still small voice."

Be patient though. There is a lot of junk out there designed for corrupting the Word.

65 posted on 07/14/2006 7:01:28 PM PDT by Radix (This vacation is almost over.)
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To: perfect stranger
Have a great weekend.

Do the same......

66 posted on 07/14/2006 7:01:47 PM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: Uncledave
Why do they lose? Because their armies suck.

Sorry to be blunt but that is it. No professionalism and certainly very low maintenance.

67 posted on 07/14/2006 7:04:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (If you're going to lie; do it well.)
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To: nerdwithamachinegun
I saw a lot of this first hand watching Marines train Iraqis.
It was quite disturbing to see the huge difference in culture.
 
Oh golly, like the Marines and culture have something in common.
 
I simply do not have the words to tell you just how grateful I am for your service.
 
Thanks!

68 posted on 07/14/2006 7:22:45 PM PDT by Radix (This vacation is almost over.)
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To: Radix

OK, I glossed over a couple of the possible differences.
My background is in Army MI, which is a peculiar part of the Army.
As a contractor supporting Marines there was a big culture shock. It would sound extraordinarily disprespectful to the Army for me to point out the differences so I'll just say that the USMC is more results oriented.
There's already a big difference between Marines and other GIs.
Now, compare a Marine to the type of soldiers described in this article.
Marines genererally seem to me to have little doubt as to what the mission is.
If a Marines doesn't know how to do something and it must be done it gets done anyway. Usually that's a good thing unless food, computers or explosives are involved.
Marines understand why things are done a particular way much more than people give them credit for.
A squared away Lance Corporal can function as a first sargeant if needed.
Marines will hoard gear, but they will take care of other Marines first.
These are things I've seen first hand.


The Marines I have seen around the world have the cleanest bodies, the filthiest minds, the highest morale, and the lowest morals of any group of animals I have ever seen. Thank God for the United States Marine Corps!
Eleanor Roosevelt, First Lady of the United States, 1945

The Page-O-Truth:
http://4mermarine.com/USMC/quotes.html


69 posted on 07/15/2006 6:18:33 AM PDT by nerdwithamachinegun (All generalizations are wrong.)
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To: Brilliant
Mainly because they don't have the a-bomb. But that will change shortly.

The "bomb" gives Islamic fanatics instant credibility - in their mind.

70 posted on 07/15/2006 6:24:03 AM PDT by Fury
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