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How to Avoid Honor Killing in Turkey? Honor Suicide
AOL News ^ | July 16, 2006 | DAN BILEFSKY

Posted on 07/16/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Every few weeks in Batman and the surrounding area in southeast Anatolia, which is poor, rural and deeply influenced by conservative Islam, a young woman tries to take her life. Others have been stoned to death, strangled, shot or buried alive. Their offenses ranged from stealing a glance at a boy to wearing a short skirt, wanting to go to the movies, being raped by a stranger or relative or having consensual sex.

Hoping to join the European Union, Turkey has tightened the punishment for attacks on women and girls who have had such experiences. But the violence has continued, if by different means: parents are trying to spare their sons from the harsh punishments associated with killing their sisters by pressing the daughters to take their own lives instead.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: deathcultivation; honorkilling; honorsuicide; islam; religionofpieces; rop; trop
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1 posted on 07/16/2006 2:27:04 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: SJackson

Speaking for myself, I have read about so many Islamic atrocities of one kind or another, I can't even be shocked by them anymore.


2 posted on 07/16/2006 2:28:10 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Islime the religion of peace.
3 posted on 07/16/2006 2:31:22 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Striving to obtain liberal victim status.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Of course, this kind of anti-woman atrocity has inflamed the feminists and the National Organization of Women, who are planning all kinds of demonstrations and rallies to support the women and girls in Turkey. </sarcasm>


4 posted on 07/16/2006 2:32:26 PM PDT by redpoll (redpoll)
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To: Clintonfatigued
The depravity of Mad Moe's death cultists is hard for the western mind to accept.
5 posted on 07/16/2006 2:32:43 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Just part of the ROP. No matter who tells me otherwise...Islam is NOT a religion of love, peace and kindness.

Murder, terrorism, suicide, slavery, bigotry, racism, totalitarianism....are just a few descriptions that come to mind.
6 posted on 07/16/2006 2:32:48 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Clintonfatigued
Honor Suicide won't work...
It would require that male Arab coward to kill himself..

I propose that all Islamists who feel their "honor" has been besmirched - report to the nearest armed man and beg he be shot....

Damn --- Islamist honor?...oxymoron.

Semper Fi
7 posted on 07/16/2006 2:35:10 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Islam is a looking glass into a prehistoric world of cave-dwelling neanderthals.

Unfortunately, these neanderthals want you, me and every other non-muslim dead.
8 posted on 07/16/2006 2:35:19 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Man was made in the image of God, not pond scum)
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To: reagan_fanatic; Jameison; wagglebee; desertrat

"Islam is a looking glass into a prehistoric world of cave-dwelling neanderthals.

Unfortunately, these neanderthals want you, me and every other non-muslim dead."

I couldn't have stated it better, myself.


9 posted on 07/16/2006 2:36:21 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Nothing to be shocked about, because it's not about the sanctity of life, it's simple economics, dressed in a religious tenet. It's merely a late-term abortion of an unwanted financial burden and has been going on for hundreds of years. It's a direct "convenience" correllary that makes aborting babies in the womb almost seem merciful.

The muslims hide their ugly practice by saying Allah demands it. Americans and other more so-called progressive societies hide it by saying their "situation" demands it.

It's all really economic Situational Ethics, if you will, sanctioned by Allah in the Mideast and the liberal Left in the West.


10 posted on 07/16/2006 2:37:17 PM PDT by January24th
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To: January24th

"The muslims hide their ugly practice by saying Allah demands it."

Actually, the Koran does not sanction so-called Honor Killings.


11 posted on 07/16/2006 2:39:07 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens commit crimes that Americans won't commit)
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To: Clintonfatigued

More here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666035/posts


12 posted on 07/16/2006 2:39:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: Clintonfatigued

It doesn't matter. It doesn't sanction suicide bombings, either... or killing steet vendors for selling "modern" food.

They still hide behind it, they teach it, and they relieve their guilty conscience by dressing it up real nice in religious righteousness. Either way, it's a lie.

We can talk about the Koran, or we can talk about how to view and solve the vile "honor killing" cults. But the problem isn't the Koran, it's the human sin of deadly convenience.


13 posted on 07/16/2006 2:46:50 PM PDT by January24th
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To: wagglebee

And remember, this is in Turkey, arguably the most secular Islamic nation on earth.


14 posted on 07/16/2006 2:48:17 PM PDT by Bushwacker777
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To: Clintonfatigued
Last month, the United Nations dispatched a special envoy to Turkey to investigate. The envoy, Yakin Erturk, concluded that while some suicides were authentic, others appeared to be “honor killings disguised as a suicide or an accident.”

Well, that's a relief. With the UN on the job, you know things will get cleared up, and fast!

NOT!!
15 posted on 07/16/2006 2:49:39 PM PDT by Captain Rhino ( Dollars spent in India help a friend; dollars spent in China arm an enemy.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Just hideous.


16 posted on 07/16/2006 2:52:49 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Clintonfatigued

There's actually a place on this planet called Batman?


17 posted on 07/16/2006 3:01:03 PM PDT by Coronal
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To: Clintonfatigued
But Muslims aren't REALLY like this. Ask any American Muslim, you know, the CAIR type supporters, those who are peaceable and would never even consider such atrocities.

The problem is, they'd also never condemn a fellow Muslim doing such atrocities, or take any constructive acts to prevent them. Being a Muslim means never having to say "sorry, infidel", as long as you act in Allah's name.

If Muslims think so little of their own family members, if they kill other Muslims when their are no Americans or Jews around to kill, when they commit hidious atrocities, how can any "infidel" expect better treatment? We're no better than pigs or dogs to them.

What really appalls me is being called a "bigot" on this forum by so-called conservatives (and libertarians) because I accurately depict the acts of Muslims, while my detractors quote the words of their Muslim friends as definitive on the nature of Islam. I'm a "hate filled bigot", but the libs, RINO's, and libertiarians are morally superior to me because they defend "the religion of peace" and Allah's murderous followers.

In 2001, I said things like "careful, most Muslims are decent people; it's just the crazies out there that murder ..". I should have known better. I did the Christian (and American) thing and gave Muslims "the benefit of the doubt". That consideration was unwarranted then, and after five years of war and greater threats on the horizon, it is idiotic now.

Americans need to grow a backbone. We need to recognize the potential threat that every American Muslim represents, and act to protect this country. We need to recognize that Iraq and Afghanistan may be "our friends" today, but will pick any Muslim over us tomorrow, and then, probably try to kill their Muslim "friend" the day after that. They do it all in the "name of Allah". No "infidel" can ever trust a Muslim; but we should trust Muslims to be consistent with the Quran.

SFS

18 posted on 07/16/2006 3:10:30 PM PDT by Steel and Fire and Stone
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To: river rat
Until recently, a family member of a dishonored girl, usually a brother younger than 18, would carry out the death sentence and receive a short prison sentence because of his youth. Sentences also were reduced under the defense that a relative had been provoked to commit murder.

This is interesting, a minor-aged brother was usually ordered to kill his sister. That must have been fun, and no doubt all other family females were properly scared to pieces of the young murderer afterward.

A logical question might be why no male family member was sent to kill the male that was believed to have seduced their female.

Of course that might be too dangerous, it might start a clan war getting males killed, so just getting junior to kill his sister seems to be the honorable way to go for them, and the ex-boyfriend gets a free pass to go and sin some more.

19 posted on 07/16/2006 3:45:29 PM PDT by xJones
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To: xJones
".....honorable way to go for them,.."

I have seen too little evidence of any "honor" among the largest part of the Islamic community....

Little? Hell, NONE.

Semper Fi

20 posted on 07/16/2006 3:59:35 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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