Thank you very much for the recommendation....they sure do look nice "sigh"
Posted on 07/16/2006 11:28:54 PM PDT by Stoat
Another Pit Bull gets a "lead euthanization" after another "misunderstanding":
http://www.wate.com/Global/story.asp?S=5170818&nav=0RYv
The Background is two pit bulls at first tried to attack a 71 year old neighbor, who made it into his house with no injury. The dogs then swam across the canal and attacked Joe who was walking in HIS YARD. Jeff, the neighbor heard the commotion, tossed him a 4X4 landscape timer which Joe used to try and fend off two dogs. Joe managed to hit the dogs quite solidly but it did not deter them. Jeff finally got his shotgun and as the brown pit bull rushed him, Jeff fired, hitting the dog and yet the attack continued. Jeff then shot a second time. Deputy had to fire 3rd shot. 911 was called along with animal control and that call lasted 4.59 minutes. The second dog was returned to the owner, a visiting friend from Hollywood, Fl and given a $50.00 fine. The owner of the dog that was killed would not even come and retrieve his dog.
Did we profile these dogs because they were pit bulls? NO, they were profiled because they were vicious. My best friend owns 3 pit bulls! How do I know this, I am the wife of the man who was attacked. I have not owned a gun in 30 years but will have one at hand in the future.
Point taken, and very well written, I might add. I understand that many people have little interest in this issue, and perhaps I am going about this the wrong way. However, this was the way that I found out, and at that time I was indifferent as well.
The forum where I spent much time is comprised of many very passionate people, some like me, others in different ways. We are all trying our own approaches to help fix the problem, including some intimidation of thugs and public awareness, but the problem remains because some people cannot be intimidated or educated, and many of the most disinterested people happen to be the problem owners that everyone wants to get rid of.
I have no problem with defending my loved ones, and I urge others to do the same. But I am not easily fearful of strays as many others are, so I would not be so quick to pull a gun on a dog. Perhaps someday this will be my ironic demise, but I gamble this daily because I cannot fall victim to the same hysteria I am witness to.
I agree with most of your solutions and I want you to know that I am trying many different approaches. Some of the things you mentioned have already been tried with no success, but I am not giving up anytime soon, and neither are the people on the forum I frequent. Soon another tough looking dog will be the object of everyone's hatred, as there are some rare breeds coming into the states now that are much bigger and meaner than any pit bull type trained to be so. As much as I would hate to condemn any breed, my hopes are that this "monster" torch passes soon, as it has for generations with whatever popular muscle dog came into the spotlight.
Mrs. Pipala, Welcome to Free Republic and thank you very much for joining this thread to talk with us about the terrible ordeal that you and your husband have experienced. I hope that your husband has not suffered too many bad effects from the terrifying event that happened....please know that I (and I'm sure everyone else here) wishes you both the very best. Even if there weren't any physical injuries, such an event can be emotionally traumatizing not only to your husband but to you and any other family members or friends as well, and such an even is certainly not something to be trifled with or minimized in any way.
It's very kind of you to add details to the story, as you have done in your earlier post. We here at Free Republic have grown accustomed, unfortunately, to poor reporting from the mainstream press and it's wonderful to be able to get a true and complete version of events from you.
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I just wish the fellow had shot both dogs.
Thanks very much for the post; interesting article. It does seem to be a bit of an epidemic of sorts, doesn't it?
Thank you very much for the recommendation....they sure do look nice "sigh"
i bet u get alll the girls?
As a matter of fact, the Center for Disease Control has a thick file on me....
Its true ladies! I AM the guy about whom your mother warned.
"even people w/ common sense could decipher between a friendly pit bull & one that isn't."
Not true. In fact, I have had my dogs inside my house when someone comes over, and my dogs merrily go to greet the new person, only to be screamed at (some people take one look at a dog and determine it's vicious without any reason). People who don't know dogs don't understand their body language. This is most often not only the reason people get bit in the first place, but also the reason why they don't understand why their dog "snapped", and say the dog was always so nice.
Not only that, but the man didn't get bitten. The dogs were near him. He even hit one over the head, and still no bite? That doesn't make sense. It seems to me this guy bought into the stereotype and got scared that they were even around him, which happens all the time.
HA HA!!! I AM SURE. I WAS JUST KIDDING. THIS IS A PRETTY HOT TOPIC. ANYWAYS, ANIMALS ARE THAT-ANIMALS. WE DONT KNOW WHAT THEY ARE REALLY THINKING. JUST RESEARCHED INFO WHICH CHANGES ALL THE TIME. WE SHOULD JUST LOOK AFTER OUR ANIMALS AND NOT ALLOW THEM RUN OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AS THERE ARE VICIOUS ANIMALS & DUMB PEOPLE. EITHER WAY THE DOG IS DEAD, NO CHANGING THAT. MEDIA SHOULD REPRESENT FACTS & NOT SENSATIONALIZED STORIES TO SELL THEIR GOODS. IT IS TOO BAD. BUT SOCIETY HAS DEEMED THESE DOGS AS VICIOUS AND NOT FOR WHAT THEY REALLY ARE (PEOPLE DOGS & DOG KILLERS) I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE TO BE LICENSED TO HAVE A SPECIALTY BREED LIKE A PIT BULL. LIKE VEHICLE LICENSES (DIFFERENT CLASSES FOR DIFFERENT EQUIPMENT) INFO FOR DIFFERENT HANDLING!!?? WHAT DO YOU THINK??
I AGREE W/ THE FACT THAT PEOPLE ARE SCARED AND JUMP THE GUN. BUT THE REAL PROBLEM LIES IN A PITBULLS BODY LANGUAGE
I MENTIONED BEFORE THAT THE BREED MOTTO IS COURAGE IN THE FACE OF ADVERSITY. PIT BULLS DO NOT GIVE WARNING-THAT WOULD GIVE HIS OPPONENT THE UPPER HAND/WARNING. AS I HAD OVERLOOKED THAT THE MAN DID NOT GET BITTEN AFTER HITTING THE DOG-WAS IT EVEN A PITBULL?? WERE THESE EVEN THE DOGS (PICTURED)THAT HAD ATTACKED? LIKE I SAID TO THE OTHER GUY, REAL PITBULL ENTHUSIASTS WOULD UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO REGULATE OWNERSHIP OF THESE BEAUTIFUL & OVERLY SKILLED ANIMALS. THEY ARE DEFINITELY DANGEROUS IN THE WRONG HANDS. AND TO ALL THE PEOPLE I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT UNDERSTANDING FIRST BEFORE I WROTE. BUT I STILL THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A NICE DOG & A NOT NICE DOG IS COMMON SENSE. A PIT BULL IS KINDA HARD TO MISS SO PEOPLE WHEN APPROACHED SHOULD JUST STAND STILL W/ ARMS CROSSED & NOT STARE AT THE DOG (PERCEIVED AS A THREAT BY PIT BULL-AND WILL ATTACK WHEN CHALLENGED). OR THE FETAL POSITION WHEN BEING ATTACKED. BUT THE WORST THING WOULD BE TO CHALLENGE-THEY WILL FINISH THE FIGHT
A. I think that people should be ready to defend themselves, and their property.
B. If your dog is on my property, I will take any reasonable action necessary to protect my family or property.
C. Of course, if your dog does damage, you are liable for that damage. That should limit the frequency of uncontrolled dogs for law abiding people.
D. For the non-law abiding people, laws don't work so see A. and B. Above.
In all these schemes, you don't need a government bureaucracy to be bribed, taxes to support said bureaucracy, or limitations on freedom for responsible people.
Hope that helps.
Yeah, and that's why I don't understand why he wasn't bitten. Even the most stable dog would have every reason in the world to defend itself after being hit with something large and heavy.
I agree that quite a few pit bulls may not have the normal warnings most dogs have, like growling and posturing, but most of that is not gone, but downplayed. I can tell when my dog gets tense, even when no one else can. I think it just comes down to whether you have dogs or not.
Some dogs wear their emotions on their sleeves, and others have convoluted cues. All of them have some kind of body language to follow. If a dog comes up to you and stops, tensing muscles and staring, it might mean business. But if it comes all the way up to you with or without charging (sometimes my dogs will "charge" at me when they're happy to see me)and sniffs you, or circles you, it isn't necessarily being offensive, just curious.
I think this is where a lot of people get concerned, and I understand why. If the media shows nothing but the bad of this breed, then people that aren't familiar with these dogs will have no choice but to believe what the media says. It's unfortunate, but that is our reality now. It's really a shame more people don't question the media about things and research for themselves. I am sure they exaggerate and add to pretty much everything they publish for the sake of ratings and money.
thanks, you are about the only one on this page that has some pitty knowledge. now if only there were more out there.
I live in a crappy part of town & see all the kids walking these ill bred/raised dogs (of all sorts made popular by rap)at the end of huge long chains, under fed no doubt & I cringe. It is a sad sad thing to see these beautiful animals used and abused for fashion, gambling & drugs.
no wonder that society is scared. misinformed with idiots perpetuating the hype. It is almost necessary to breed ban when there is no one willing to make laws that work, or make an informative brochure to hand out like the Emergency storm networks do. After all isn't there intention to protect the people??? Ya right.
I am on a forum devoted to pit bulls and creating a better life for them, pm me if you want info on it. Many people on there will actually call byb's from the newspaper and try to educate them. Others aren't as polite about it, but the overall goal is to get them to stop, so to each his own, I guess. There are some wonderful people on there that can give advice on how to deal with people you see on the streets. It isn't fail-safe, but you would be surprised how many people will listen to you if you're polite (and have a well-behaved pittie also).
The worst part about all of this is that if the government would just actually enforce the laws it currently has, no bans would be needed. The biggest enemy of all right now is ignorance, though, so I am taking the education approach for now.
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