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Teen Sues L.A. After Decade in Foster Care
AP via ABC News ^ | 2006-07-17 | Staff

Posted on 07/17/2006 8:00:34 PM PDT by dread78645

LOS ANGELES Jul 17, 2006 (AP)— A teenage girl reunited with her father last year after a decade in foster care is suing Los Angeles County for taking so long to bring them together.

County supervisors had said in September that the reunion of Melinda Smith, now 17, and father Thomas Marion Smith was the result of a "groundbreaking effort," and congratulated county agencies for locating the father.

But the lawsuit alleges that the Department of Children and Family Services failed to use "due diligence" to locate Thomas Smith. It claims the agency never notified Smith, who had continued making child support payments, that his daughter was in foster care and never gave him a chance to claim her.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: childsupport; fathersrights; lawsuit; parentalrights; taxdollarsatwork; wardofthestate; youpayforthis
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To: Lokibob

The state pays faster families for taking in children, so it's possible that at least some of the money went to the foster faily for the support of the girl.


21 posted on 07/17/2006 9:20:35 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: Graybeard58

Foster Care can be expensive. Without knowing what he paid each month, you can't tell if they actually made any money on it. I doubt it. I just don't think Family Services are competent enough to take advantage of it, even if he did pay alot. I spent 13 years in foster care, and have kept foster kids in my home as well. I have nothing good to say about Family Services. Incompetence should be their middle name.


22 posted on 07/17/2006 9:25:24 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: ga medic

My wife and I spent about 10 years keeping kids for the Illinois Child and Family Services, I doubt that they are any better than any other state.


23 posted on 07/17/2006 9:28:24 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: dread78645

Ok, there is some information missing from the article that would be interesting to know. For instance, why was this girl infoster care for so long? In Missouri if a child is in foster care for over a year and the parent(s) have not made any of the changes recommended by the court, then the process of getting their parental rights terminated begins.
Also, the article doesn't mention the father trying too hard to find the girl.


24 posted on 07/17/2006 9:29:16 PM PDT by chae (R.I.P. Eddie Guerrero He lied, he cheated, he stole my heart)
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To: Graybeard58
If she spent a decade in foster care, the child support received from the father probably didn't cover payments made to the foster parents.

Probably not, but the ~$180,000 California got under title IV-E from the Federal HHS sure would have.

25 posted on 07/17/2006 9:47:07 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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26 posted on 07/17/2006 9:48:08 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: Graybeard58
My understanding is - that the federal government reimburses the state 60 cents on the dollar for money the state spends on recouping child support. I understand this includes the state/county employee that processes the payment each month.

I am sure there are some federal reimbursements for foster children, but I haven't had to fight that battle so I don't know the details.

The child support system needs to be completely overhauled. Privatization would be a good start.
27 posted on 07/17/2006 9:51:45 PM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: dread78645

Will you cite a source for those numbers?


28 posted on 07/17/2006 9:52:29 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58
Will you cite a source for those numbers?

Sure.

FEDERAL FOSTER CARE FINANCING: How and Why the Current Funding Structure Fails to Meet the Needs of the Child Welfare Field

29 posted on 07/17/2006 10:01:07 PM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: dread78645

Did you read this too?

"Some have argued that because foster care is an entitlement for eligible children while service funds are limited, title IV-E encourages foster care placement. However, it seems unlikely that caseworkers make placement decisions on the basis of children's title IV-E eligibility, nor is it likely that judges use title IV-E status as a significant factor in their placement rulings. Indeed, caseworkers and judges are often unaware of children's eligibility status. A lack of available family services, however, could plausibly tip caseworkers' decisions toward placement or delay a child's discharge. Quantifying such effects is difficult, however".


30 posted on 07/17/2006 10:24:07 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Harrius Magnus

"I don't. I hope the incompetent boob who fumbled the ball, and their immediate supervisor, gets fired and publicly reprimanded."

As long as you're dreaming, I'd like next week's winning Powerball ticket.


31 posted on 07/17/2006 11:47:57 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile ('Is' and 'amnesty' both have clear, plain meanings. Are Billy Jeff, Pence, McQueeg & Bush related?)
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To: Graybeard58
Did you read this too?

Yes I did. And I also read:

The Current Funding Structure is Inflexible, Emphasizing Foster Care

"Title IV-E has long been criticized because it funds foster care on an unlimited basis without providing for services that would either prevent the child's removal from the home or speed permanency (see, for example, The Pew Commission on Children in Foster Care, 2004 and McDonald, Salyers and Shaver 2004). Funding sources for preventive and reunification services, primarily the Child Welfare Services Program and the Promoting Safe and Stable Families Program funded under title IV-B of the Social Security Act, are quite small in comparison with those dedicated to foster care and adoption."

"... Indeed, caseworkers and judges are often unaware of children's eligibility status. A lack of available family services, however, could plausibly tip caseworkers' decisions toward placement or delay a child's discharge."

So, the average CPS worker doesn't understand budgets & bureaucracy? Gotit.

"Quantifying such effects is difficult, however".

For sure.

32 posted on 07/18/2006 12:08:42 AM PDT by dread78645 (Evolution. A doomed theory since 1859.)
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To: Pikachu_Dad

Yeah they probably did know what they were doing but I've worked side by side with government bureaucracy and I know from that experience that most of the time it is chronic incompetence and indifference not malice that produces things like this.


33 posted on 07/18/2006 4:35:45 AM PDT by Ma3lst0rm (Democrat=Defeat)
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To: Graybeard58

The states make money from the federal government for each child they have in "state" care. Indiana does the same damn thing. My brother's son was taken from his mother because of her drug use. My brother had to fight the state for 3 months to get his kid! HIS KID!

Follow the money. It's all about the money.

Another "sneaky" trick these agencies like to pull is to take your kid from you on a Friday afternoon so that you can't do anything through the legal system for 3 days. That's 3 days the state gets money from the feds.

It really is a sick racket CPS has going on.

My advice to anyone and everyone is NEVER let those f*****s in your home without a WRITTEN warrant. EVER.


34 posted on 07/18/2006 7:27:18 AM PDT by mosquitobite (The penalty for refusing to participate in politics is you end up being governed by your inferiors)
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To: Harrius Magnus

The taxpayers elected degenerate leftist miscreants who created this filthy mess, maybe they should be on the hook.


35 posted on 07/18/2006 8:27:54 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: Harrius Magnus
I am in favor of accountability, not punishing taxpayers.

The taxpayers are the employers and supervisors of the incompetent boobs...they are responsible.
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36 posted on 07/18/2006 9:36:53 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Harrius Magnus
I don't. I hope the incompetent boob who fumbled the ball, and their immediate supervisor, gets fired and publicly reprimanded. I am in favor of accountability, not punishing taxpayers.

Taxpayers frequently need to be punished. They vote for legislators who make laws and policies encouraging the hiring and retention of such incompetent boobs.

37 posted on 07/18/2006 9:41:06 AM PDT by Sloth (We cannot defeat foreign enemies of the Constitution if we yield to the domestic ones.)
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To: Valpal1

I agree with you 100%!


38 posted on 07/18/2006 9:44:27 AM PDT by MissEdie
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To: dread78645

GOOD! I hope she cleans their clock in court.


39 posted on 07/18/2006 9:45:39 AM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: Ma3lst0rm

Those "incompetents responsible" are usually lesbians and gays working in CPS who have never had kids and know nothing about raising kids.


40 posted on 07/18/2006 9:46:53 AM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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