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U.S. Rescue Bogs Down in Lebanon
LATimes ^ | July 18, 2006 | Megan K. Stack

Posted on 07/18/2006 12:46:21 AM PDT by rebel_yell2

BEIRUT — Thousands of Americans whose vacations and business trips to Lebanon have degenerated with sickening speed into stints in a battle zone remained stranded here under Israeli bombardment Monday, their frustration and anger mounting because the U.S. government hasn't gotten them out faster.

Waiting around Beirut with bags packed and fingers crossed, U.S. citizens derided the embassy for busy phone lines, a lack of information and gnawing uncertainty over when and whether they will get out. Hundreds were expected to be shipped to Cyprus today, but how long the full evacuation will take remains uncertain.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israeliwar; 6thwardvisitors; bogdown; expats; imfnwo; lebanonevacuation; prayers4rebelyell2; quagmire; quagmiretemplate; rebelyell2; rescue; shepsmith; statedeptadvisory; usembassy; wgaf; whinegrouses; womenchildren1st
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To: RandallFlagg
"Amphib carriers have the CIWS which could easily hit silkworm.We need to mobilize our Naval forces for this."

What a uninformed statement. The problem is that those defenses do not work well with the clutter of buildings close by. They work great only in the open water. I feel sorry for the people over there but I am tired again of "IT'S BUSH'S FOUGHT" again. I'm sorry that place has been a tinderbox for years.
381 posted on 07/18/2006 5:52:21 AM PDT by reagandemo (The battle is near are you ready for the sacrifice?)
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To: Victor

Because, to get through southern Lebanon to Israel they would have to go through the area held by Hezbollah!


382 posted on 07/18/2006 5:52:38 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: stlnative

But if they can't pay it will be written off.


383 posted on 07/18/2006 5:56:02 AM PDT by eyespysomething (How do I set a laser printer to stun?)
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To: rebel_yell2

Looks like US citizens still haven't learned the lesson of Katrina: DON'T DEPEND ON GOVERNMENT. It is the biggest bureaucracy in the world, populated by affirmative action hires and cronies of politicians. It will never do anything efficiently because no one wants to make a decision. Better to have paid a taxi to take you to the harbor and paid someone to let you ride with the Italians yesterday. When Italians show they are more organized than we are, you know how pitiful things have become in the US.


384 posted on 07/18/2006 5:56:13 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Jezebelle
Your logic is faulty.

Why would Israel worry about who is leaving Lebanon by ship when the border to Syria is wide open? As for checking who leaves, fine, but let people leave after checking. That is not what is happening.

As for destroying Lebanon to "isolate" Hizbollah, I don't think that argument flies either. Israel is punishing all of Lebanon for being weak-kneed. Let's admit that. Why don't they turn their firepower on Damascus and Tehran, where the real problem lies. Hizbollah is a "messenger boy." Killing the messenger won't change anything. You have to cut off the head of the snake, wouldn't you agree?

385 posted on 07/18/2006 5:56:32 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Ditter
I have never thought of Beirut as vacation destination but what do I know.

It is a popular vacation spot for Arabs.

The Brits, and other Europeans, like Egypt.

386 posted on 07/18/2006 5:57:38 AM PDT by af_vet_1981
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To: rebel_yell2
for a bit of levity...perhaps you've already heard this:

Jay Leno says the US government has stated it's not easy to move 25,000 across the border in Lebanon.

...so we should hire the Mexican government to do it for us.

387 posted on 07/18/2006 5:59:26 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: rebel_yell2
Reb,

Do they have English "Yellow Pages" there? Try looking up marinas and yacht clubs and see if you can hire (bribe) someone to sail you to Cyprus. Seriously.

Here are some web links to marinas in Lebanon:

http://www.lamarinajk.com/LaMarinaJK_content.html

http://www.solidere.com/solidere.html

http://www.lebanondivers.com/...these guys might know someone with a boat.

The above are all in Beruit, you might check to see if there are any further north inbetween major cities that might be blockaded.

388 posted on 07/18/2006 6:00:28 AM PDT by FReepaholic (Why aren't lawyers ever accused of price gouging?)
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To: OldFriend
As someone who donated generously to the Bush reelection campaign, to the RNC and to the Swift Boaters, I am amazed that you think I am a Bush basher.

What planet are you living on?

State Dept bashing, now, there, I plead guilty, but I have lots of company. :-)

389 posted on 07/18/2006 6:01:24 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Echo Talon

"maybe you forget the muslim population in france and that we are the "great satan" ?"

Iranian mullahs used to chant in the eighties that America was the Great Satan and France was the Little Satan. Both our nations were targets for terror attacks and kidnappings in Lebanon before...


390 posted on 07/18/2006 6:01:55 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Why would the Hezzies be slipping out of the harbor when they can walz across the Syrian border? More likely that the IDF was hitting Hezzies trying to sabatoge one of the cruise ships, don't you think.


391 posted on 07/18/2006 6:04:05 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: Ditter

From what I understand, most of the Americans there are either visiting family or many of them live there even though they have an American passport. The number of Americans just choosing Beirut as a vacation destination rather than another place is probably rather few. And some of the stranded people are working there or on business. But they appear to be fewer in number than I originally thought.


392 posted on 07/18/2006 6:04:35 AM PDT by twigs
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To: rebel_yell2
Why is the French bureaucracy more efficient than our own?

Good question. But then again, we are talking here about the windbags of Foggy Bottom, so the answer should be obvious.

Isn't this also the same crowd who gave blanket US Visas to Saudi terrorists who filled out their applications in crayon with blank spaces and addresses of University parking lots?

393 posted on 07/18/2006 6:06:48 AM PDT by Gritty (The State Department's strategy is 'talk forever-act never'. - Newt Gingrich)
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To: OldFriend
Ranting accomplishes nothing. You can be sure that the government knows exactly who is in country and for what purpose.

LOL! Last night, I had a retired ambassador call the State Dept on my behalf to confirm that my online registration went through and was on record. (They send no confirmation of registration.) He was told that they had no record of me being in the country and had to re-register me.

You might want to rethink your statement because you are dead wrong, as my experience proves.

394 posted on 07/18/2006 6:08:19 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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To: rebel_yell2
I can't believe there are people who think pointing fingers is more urgent than helping 25,000 potential hostages leave Lebanon - and a fellow Freeper among them to boot.

Look, Reb, just in case you didn't get the private message I sent you : should you want to go to the port and talk your way into the French-dispatched ferry, send me some details about the guy you had contacts with via Freepmail, and I'll translate them into French (in case you don't already speak the language).

That'll be something to give to the officials to make them understand your situation better, and maybe that'll help give you some kind of priority treatment.
395 posted on 07/18/2006 6:08:40 AM PDT by Atlantic Friend (Cursum Perficio)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
those sitting safe in America need to cut you a LOT of slack.

I so totally agree. I've been stunned at the heartlessness of fellow Freepers. The whining I've seen are those people who get their mugs in front of the camera and cry and complain--mostly people who ignored the state department warning that it was not a safe place to travel to. Rebel Yell 2 was working there and got trapped. He's been very much in my prayers.

396 posted on 07/18/2006 6:09:11 AM PDT by twigs
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To: tobyhill
US has limited guarantees with regards to protections

That has been lost in all the whining. And no, I'm NOT referring to Rebel Yell 2.

397 posted on 07/18/2006 6:10:38 AM PDT by twigs
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To: Southack
We have to delete your post since we cannot post complete articles from CNN.

Here are the telephone numbers that you posted


Tuesday, July 18, 2006; Posted: 3:23 a.m. EDT (07:23 GMT)
INFORMATION HOT LINES
U.S. Embassy in Beirut:
(+961) 4-542-600
(+961) 4-543-600

State Department in Washington:
1-202-501-4444
1-888-407-4747 (Call this number toll-free from inside the U.S.)

Americans in Lebanon and family members outside the country can obtain information at www.travel.state.gov
398 posted on 07/18/2006 6:12:26 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: stlnative

On CNN this morning, one of the CNNewsies was bashing a State Dept official, and he kept repreating "It's been a week! It's been a week! Why is the response so slow??"

A WEEK! How fast do you expect ships to move? Should we have immediately started evacuating people when the first bomb dropped??? Ridiculous. People need to take their own responsibility for working, visiting, and vacationing in such a garden spot like Beirut.


399 posted on 07/18/2006 6:13:34 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: Atlantic Friend
Thanks for the offer, but I will wait for word from the U.S. Embassy that it my turn. I'm probably in better position to weather this than most. Let them go first.

The finger pointing is beyond the pale and accomplishes nothing. Let's get people home first and then they can rant all they want.

400 posted on 07/18/2006 6:15:35 AM PDT by rebel_yell2
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