[grapeape]

tortoise said this:

"That's what liberals say about all new military technologies -- "fundamentally unsound". "

Liberals don't say that conservatives do.

In the techno-addicted modern military many have forgotten that these systems have to be shot at and abused. I do not care how neet-o it is and the engineering wows it took to get it in the air. Marines have to fly it into combat. I have not met a single marine that wants to go into hot zone in that thing.

Robe said basically not to cut and run and that deaths are the price of aviation. Well you can do all of the personnel testing and leave the grunts out. You can fly it into the hot zones and tell us how well it works, if you survive. Marine aren't Guinna pigs.

[MyDogAllah]

[I have not met a single marine that wants to go into hot zone in that thing.]

Forget the hot LZ. I can't find a Marine who'd go to a strip club in a V-22 Osprey, even if the beer and lap dances were free!

I hope the optimists are correct. But I doubt it. This whole program reminds of, "You've already spent $50 billion on the thing. What's another $15 billion so it can actually fly?"

The Osprey should have been killed long before it landed on Rumsfeld's desk.

[A.A. Cunningham]

I have not met a single marine that wants to go into hot zone in that thing.

You haven't spent much time talking to any Marines at New River, Lejeune or Pendleton.