Posted on 07/19/2006 1:31:57 PM PDT by catholicfreeper
We do not need new immigration laws. Secure the borders first and enforce current law.
Liberals like to think most fringe-lefty issues are 'divisive'. It makes it appear as though their leftist agenda has support.
Well we need to figure out what to do with those now here. Especially those with AMerican families and spouces. So I see his point
Sorry Mike, been there, done that, didn't work.
There have been more murders done by criminals who overstay their visas and or those who just invade our country than occurred during 911.
Because they occur by ones or fives or so, they seem to have less impact than 911 but these Americans are just as dead and their families are just as torn up.
Anybody who aids or abets these criminals are guilty of these murders also.
I think it didn't work because there was no public drive to make it work. The public and politicalmood is much more likely to make it work. Especially if what was not taken care of last time is this time. Such as real emplyoer sanctions that go outside the law, and real security
Well, hpefully soon as they say the wheat will be seperated from the chaff. And a mormilization of status will occur. Therefore no problem with aiding and abetting criminals
I would defer that issue to the President as he is head of the Executive branch that enforces border security and immigration law.
It didn't work the last time because politicians like Ted Kennedy gutted funding for enforcement. The vote on the fence the other day is proof they're ready to do it again. Until they secure the borders and make a real commitment to enforce the laws there's no need to pass anything at this time.
I highly suspect that if the House agrees to a compromise that funding will not be a problem. They in fact will demand it as to any security measures they will put on the border or else where
"Despite the hysterical charges by fringe groups that President Bush, Senator McCain and Senator Kennedy seek 'open borders' that would flood the nation with some 100 million new immigrants, no participant in recent Congressional debates has advocated such a radical, suicidal course."
Medved can try to spin this as he likes, but we in fact have had "open borders" for years, and continue to have them. No amount of legislation will change that; we will have to replace the current open-borders internationalist with a president who is concerned with our sovereignty before there will be anything other than window-dressing action on our southern border.
The borders should have been closed on Mr. Bush's first day in office, with an accompanying message that Clinton was derelict in his duty not to enforce our borders. Bush's failure to do so then, and particularly after 9/11, has had tragic consequences for this country.
Bush has been a huge failure on border security and national sovereignty.
There are criminals and then there are criminals. I don't see a person that has been here since 2 that was came from El Slavador has American Kids and a spouse and getting on with Life as in the same category as a bank robber. But that is jsut me and it appears to the above polls a good many folks views.
I think Bush is trying to correct that problem now with legislation that will work.
His ideas are sound. I've been thinking for a long time that there is a possible compromise between the House and Senate bills. Most of the House bill supporters realize that we're going to have to work with the ones here, and we expect to do so, but it must be AFTER not before the spigot is shut off.
The Senate would require us to swallow the existing ones as the price of getting a wall. They would probably rather skip the wall later, but if we can enforce THEM to enforce the law NOW, there might be room to work.
Trouble is, I don't know how this government can be forced to do what it doesn't want to do. I'm reminded of when Congress allocated funding for 2000 more border agents, and the Admin said they would just not spend it, and hired like 200.
The Senate has chosen to defund the fence. Why should we believe this??????
My BS-ometer is clicking into the red. Something tells me this means, "Some of the illegals should stay. Like Mrs. Medved's maid."
Put me down as "divisive"--as in highly distrustful of the conciliatory tone of this.
Dear Mr. Neocon--Joe Sixpack is nobody's fool.
Well, I do think there is a politcal will to do this now. As much as I dislike for intance Tancredo, he will serve a very useful function holding everyones feet to the fire on the funding issue. Also I think it is important to get something doen now and a consensus behind it. I have a feeling that meither party is going to want to revist this issue with the same level of hot debate and tension every year. I am afraid if we don't do this now, then if the Dems take power we very well might get something a whole lot worse. Like everything in the Senate bill plus.
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