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Russia says Israel offensive goes too far
Reuters ^ | 20 Jul 2006

Posted on 07/20/2006 1:16:41 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

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To: Tailgunner Joe
he believed Israel had other motives for the offensive

The Art Bell Show is available in Russia, and those other motives have been presented there in sufficient detail to whet the appetite of conspirialists worldwide.

41 posted on 07/20/2006 2:25:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So says the guy that flattened Grozny.


42 posted on 07/20/2006 2:27:20 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: jw777

"Maybe Putin forgets how he deals w/Chechnya, Beslen and the Moscow Theater."

Nope they didn't forget, they killed their Chechen version of Bin Laden recently, Baslayef or whatever his name was. That is what Israel is also trying to do, kill the head of Hezbollah and destroy the ability to attack. Same as Russia but of course Russia must keep it's patron Iran happy at the end of the day. Russia is gleeful at the ME turmoil and is likely hoping it will continue. This keeps oil prices high and translates into billions for them.


43 posted on 07/20/2006 2:37:46 PM PDT by quantfive
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To: Tailgunner Joe

So what does Israel have to offer Russia? Iran and Syria can offer them lots of contracts and give them a foothold in the Middle East.


44 posted on 07/20/2006 2:52:59 PM PDT by Hartmann
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The boob in Spain is also going after Israel's throat. The Spanish basically rolled over for the terrorists and gave them what they want (I will never understand European thinking). America was attacked on 911 and went on the offensive. Spain is attacked and it curls up and cries uncle. Now that have the gall to criticize Israel for the violence.
45 posted on 07/20/2006 3:22:18 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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"The unprecedented scale of victims and destruction...REMINDS US OF WHAT WE DID IN AFGHANISTAN AND CHECHNYA"

There, I fixed it.


46 posted on 07/20/2006 3:25:03 PM PDT by winner3000
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To: quantfive

exactly.


47 posted on 07/20/2006 4:30:28 PM PDT by jw777
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To: Tailgunner Joe

They are just trying to protect a customer (Iran/Syria) while they products they are depending on (the rockets) are failing.


48 posted on 07/20/2006 4:33:43 PM PDT by Theophilus (Abortion = Child Sacrifice = Future Sacrifice)
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To: finnman69
Speaking of proportionality... more civilians held as islamist hostages have died from botched Russian special forces rescue attempts than have been killed by a week of IDF operations in Lebanon.
49 posted on 07/20/2006 5:14:04 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: DB

Chechens are a bunch of savages; your pity would be better spent on poisonous serpents and spiders.


50 posted on 07/20/2006 8:10:37 PM PDT by tomzz
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"The unprecedented scale of victims and destruction bear witness to the fact that the actions that were announced to (free captured Israeli servicemen) have gone far beyond the bounds of an anti-terrorist operation," the Russian Foreign Ministry said in a statement.

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Let's all google 'Chechnya' and see what we can find to expose this hypocrisy, shall we?

Here's Human Right Watch testimony:
"Since the beginning of the conflict, Russian forces have indiscriminately and disproportionately bombed and shelled civilian objects, causing heavy civilian casualties. The Russian forces have ignored their Geneva convention obligations to focus their attacks on combatants, and appear to take few safeguards to protect civilians: It is this carpet-bombing campaign which has been responsible for the vast majority of civilian deaths in the conflict in Chechnya. The Russian forces have used powerful surface-to surface rockets on numerous occasions, causing death tolls in the hundreds in the Central Market bombing in Grozny and in many smaller towns and villages. Lately, Russian commanders have threatened to use even more powerful explosives, including fuel air explosives which could have a disastrous casualty count if used against civilian targets. The bombing campaign has turned many parts of Chechnya to a wasteland: even the most experienced war reporters I have spoken to told me they have never seen anything in their careers like the destruction of the capital Grozny. "
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2000/03/01/russia11094.htm


51 posted on 07/20/2006 9:08:56 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: tomzz

Where did I show any "pity"?


52 posted on 07/20/2006 9:17:14 PM PDT by DB (©)
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"Chechens are total savages and always have been."
What over-the-top ethnic prejudice. Yes, the Chechen militants are terrorists, but that is as far as it goes.

As for savages ...

"For many Chechens, the constant bombardment was only the beginning of the horror. Once they came into contact with Russian forces, they faced even greater dangers. Human Rights Watch has now documented three large-scale massacres by Russian forces in Chechnya. In December, Russian troops killed seventeen civilians in the village of Alkhan-Yurt while going on a looting spree, burning many of the remaining homes and raping several women. We have documented at least fifty murders, mostly of older men and women, by Russian soldiers in the Staropromyslovski district of Grozny since Russian forces took control of that district: innocent civilians shot to death in their homes and their yards. In one case, three generations of the Zubayev family were shot to death in the yard of their home. "
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2000/03/01/russia11094.htm

Tell me again, who are the 'savages' here?


53 posted on 07/20/2006 9:20:07 PM PDT by WOSG
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The chechens. Why? I mean, it isn't my fault if you want to believe slammite propaganda.


54 posted on 07/20/2006 9:31:14 PM PDT by tomzz
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To: lizol; Lukasz; strategofr; GSlob; spanalot; Thunder90; Tailgunner Joe; propertius; REactor; ...

Russia/Soviet/Coldwar2 Ping

To be added or removed from the list, Freepmail me.


55 posted on 07/20/2006 10:26:27 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: WOSG

Got to love those Soviet tactics.../sarc


56 posted on 07/20/2006 10:32:08 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Ef them all. Pox on all their houses.


57 posted on 07/20/2006 10:40:57 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: Thunder90

its worse than that - Putie now says the Hezzies are not to blame.

http://thomasjoscelyn.blogspot.com/2006/07/russia-denies-iranian-syrian-role-in.html


58 posted on 07/21/2006 4:55:10 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Is this a joke?? The Russians have an extensive history of World atrocities.

They have murdered MILLIONS of people, so, Russia.............STFU!

59 posted on 07/21/2006 5:04:31 AM PDT by maineman
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You kill it in millions being covered with ideas.
I am easy to name ten facts for what Americans must be judged.
Where Russian have killed millions? The facts in studio. Also put a patch from propagation on the brains.

At the same time, answer, how much the Russian flags burn daily and how much American? You are not liked with half of world, for 10 years of life by the world leader you have managed to become more unpopular than us (Russian) and Jews.
If all around bad can something with you not so?


60 posted on 07/24/2006 1:39:59 AM PDT by Simargal ( My God keep Russians, and we shall keep Russia.)
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