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Pterosaur-like Creatures Reported in Papua New Guinea
E-Media Newswire ^ | July 20, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/20/2006 7:42:59 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger

Intermittent expeditions on Umboi Island, Papua New Guinea, from 1994 through 2004, resulted in the compilation of eyewitness testimonies that substantiated a hypothesis that pterosaurs may not be extinct.

Long Beach, Calif. (PRWEB) July 20, 2006 -- The conflict between evolution and creation took a new form with an investigation of reports of a pterosaur-like creature in Papua New Guinea. According to standard models of science, all pterosaurs became extinct by about 65-million years ago, but traditional interpretations of the Bible suggest that they lived in human times. According to Jonathan Whitcomb, a forensic videographer who interviewed native islanders in 2004, the “ropen” of Umboi Island is at least similar to a long-tailed pterosaur.

He maintains that the creationists who explored the island intermittently from 1994 through 2002 were not overly imaginative in believing the creature to be a pterosaur. According to Whitcomb’s new book, “Searching for Ropens,” there are many similarities between American, Australian, and native eyewitness accounts. Ropens appear featherless with long tails, and reports indicate they eat fish.

Whitcomb, from Long Beach, California, disputes an old idea that they are misidentifications of Flying Fox fruit bats. Two natives described a ropen holding itself upright on a tree trunk (fruit bats hang upside down from branches), and his book also describes an apparently bioluminescent glow that may help the nocturnal creatures catch fish.

The puzzle for the creationist investigators is that they’re unlike Rhamphorhynchoid pterosaur fossils in some ways: A few ropens are too large and have dorsal ridges along the back. In addition, some eyewitnesses report a head crest on the ropen while few long-tailed pterosaur fossils have such appendages.

Although Whitcomb admits having no photograph to disprove textbook declarations that all pterosaurs are extinct, he disputes the idea that the ropen is an unknown bat. His book examines an investigation by the explorers Garth Guessman, a Southern California firefighter; and David Woetzel, a New Hampshire businessman. Their 2004 expedition, a few weeks after Whitcomb’s, uncovered a native tradition about the ropen’s tail: It moves only near the tail’s base. This, says Guessman, relates to Rhamphorhynchoid pterosaur anatomy.

Before his expedition to Papua New Guinea, Whitcomb questioned Duane Hodgkinson, a flight instructor in Livingston, Montana, who maintains he saw a large “pterodactyl” in 1944, near Finschhafen. The World War II veteran’s description resembles that given by a couple who saw a creature flying over Perth, Australia, in 1997. Whitcomb also noted similarities to native accounts recorded by earlier explorers on Umboi Island between 1994 and 2002.

Whitcomb found no indication of any hallucination or hoax with the two Australians and the American veteran. He also noted that the native eyewitnesses he interviewed mentioned no supernatural elements and that their descriptions resemble those given by the Westerners.

Around Manus Island, the wingspan is three to four feet, according to Jim Blume, a missionary in Wau, on the mainland. Blume’s investigations indicate that wingspans may reach ten to fifteen feet in other areas. Whitcomb’s book mentions a few ropens that are even larger, including the ones seen by Hodgkinson and the Australian couple.

The book acknowledges differences between the ropen and Rhamphorhynchoid fossils but it emphasizes that the “diamond” on the ropen’s tail may relate to the fossil tails.

Whitcomb, a 57-year-old independent videographer who records evidence for attorney firms, completed his book after one year of compiling and analyzing eyewitness testimonies. He encourages a major expedition to videotape a ropen before the end of 2007.


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I ain't saying it's wrong or it's right. But it suuuuuure is interesting. And does anyone remember the veritable paradise of unknown creatures in that Indonesian jungle mountain range, the Foja Mountains?
1 posted on 07/20/2006 7:43:01 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger
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To: gobucks; mikeus_maximus; MeanWestTexan; JudyB1938; isaiah55version11_0; Elsie; LiteKeeper; ...

This isn't definitive proof, but just a promising preliminary report that is worth noting.


2 posted on 07/20/2006 7:43:53 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Good guys" aren't always "nice guys".)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

They're pets of the local bigfooters.


3 posted on 07/20/2006 7:45:07 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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How scientific is it to rule this out completely before giving it a fair hearing? I'll bet the hidden eden in Indonesia would have gotten a smirk from you to, before it was widely reported.


4 posted on 07/20/2006 7:47:02 PM PDT by DaveLoneRanger ("Good guys" aren't always "nice guys".)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

A new species of condor, perhaps?


5 posted on 07/20/2006 7:47:21 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Rush was a victim of profiling)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

yabbbba dabbbbaaa doooo


6 posted on 07/20/2006 7:47:30 PM PDT by silentknight
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To: DaveLoneRanger

I haven't ruled it out. But I'm skeptical. There's a difference between finding a mammal or ocean fish believed to be extinct and finding a dinosaur.


7 posted on 07/20/2006 7:49:11 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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Some of the larger, darker colored ropens are dangerous, sometimes killing an adult human. In 1985...The creature took the man into a large tree where it ate him.

:::blink:::

8 posted on 07/20/2006 7:49:22 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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How scientific is it to rule this out completely before giving it a fair hearing?

That's not the way science works. One must prove one's hypothesis. Or else, I could claim that a Brontasaurus lives in the woods behind my house, and you would have to claim that I need to be given a fair hearing.

9 posted on 07/20/2006 7:49:25 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: js1138

Find them and you find the keys to eternal life! Obviously they have it since we haven't found a lot of their dead carcasses for millions of years.


10 posted on 07/20/2006 7:49:44 PM PDT by kcar
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11 posted on 07/20/2006 7:49:55 PM PDT by TheZMan (Proud supporter of the anti-conservopussy movement.)
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It would be cool but.... "Although Whitcomb admits having no photograph to disprove textbook declarations that all pterosaurs are extinct."

Disappointed!

12 posted on 07/20/2006 7:49:56 PM PDT by Hound of the Baskervilles ("Well, Watson, we seem to have fallen upon evil days.")
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Another "living fossil"?


13 posted on 07/20/2006 7:50:10 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger
For those of us that are dinosaur-challenged...


14 posted on 07/20/2006 7:50:45 PM PDT by CrawDaddyCA (Tancredo/Paul 2008)
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Creation "scientists" doing fieldwork ===> Placemarker <===

Although Whitcomb admits having no photograph to disprove textbook declarations that all pterosaurs are extinct...

15 posted on 07/20/2006 7:52:14 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Lots of living fossils are right here in Florida.


16 posted on 07/20/2006 7:53:00 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Hurricane season 2006 - Be prepared and have a plan)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Yes, but what do they taste like?


17 posted on 07/20/2006 7:54:18 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 113-118)
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To: Coyoteman

He may have had aerial photos, but the aliens who took him up in the flying saucer to make to photos messed up the prints.


18 posted on 07/20/2006 7:55:21 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Tho I support evolution, I have always kept an open mind, regarding whether or not, particular species are extinct...

I mean, I do believe that its possible that there really is a Loch Ness Monster, or some such sea monster, whether at the bottom of a very deep lake, or out in the ocean somewhere...I just think its possible that a few individuals of a particular species have continued to exist right down to this very day....sea serpents in a part of the ocean we have never investigated, does not seem to be outside of the realm of possibility..I know many will disagree with me here, but I just like to keep my mind open to this particular possibility...

I suppose that this is where I and many of those I consider to be fellow evolutionists part ways...However, the mere existence of some creatures, long thought to be extinct, in no way does anything to falsify, the Theory of evolution....

Of course, I also allow for the possibility of a Big Foot, or a Yeti to also exist...

I suppose one might want to call me a kook...go ahead, I can assure you, I have been called worse...


19 posted on 07/20/2006 7:56:25 PM PDT by andysandmikesmom
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Come on guys. Get a grip. Fruit eatin' flying foxes. Look it up in your Funk'n'Wagnalls.


20 posted on 07/20/2006 7:57:23 PM PDT by Calusa (Did the Founders really intend schools to be a wonderland for sexual predators?)
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