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Senate wades back into abortion debate
Yahoo/AP ^ | 7/21/06 | LAURIE KELLMAN

Posted on 07/21/2006 2:21:09 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback

The Senate reopened the abortion debate Friday in advance of the midterm elections, this time over a bill that would make it a federal crime to take a teenager across state lines to end a pregnancy without a parent's knowledge.

Supporters of the bill say such incidents often occur when a girl, or the man involved, wants to evade homestate parental consent laws. Opponents say the bill would make criminals of well-meaning confidants, such as relatives and clergy members, who might help a pregnant teen whose parents are abusive.

Much of the discussion Friday concerned how to balance a parent's right to know with a woman's right to end a pregnancy as spelled out by the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.

"How would you feel as a parent in a situation like that?" asked the bill's Senate sponsor, John Ensign, R-Nev.

"Those who would object to it have a high burden to show what is unreasonable about the legislation," added Sen. Jeff Sessions (news, bio, voting record), R-Ala.

Sen. Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., who is managing opposition to the bill during floor debate, said, "Instead of doing something to improve the health of women and girls, the Republican leadership is spending precious time on a bill that protects incest predators, throws grandmothers in jail and violates our Constitution."

She said Democrats would try to amend the bill but predicted it would be approved considering the Republicans' 55-44-1 majority.

Polls suggest there is widespread public backing for the bill supporters' sentiments about a parent's right to know about a child's actions regarding abortion. In polls, almost three-quarters say they think a parent has the right to give consent before a child under 18 has an abortion.

Under the bill, anyone who helps a pregnant minor cross state lines to obtain an abortion without parental knowledge could be punished by unspecified fines and up to a year in prison. The girl and her parents would not be vulnerable to criminal penalties. The measure contains an exception for those who help underage girls get such abortions to avoid life-threatening conditions.

Supporters contended the legislation is not really an abortion bill, but instead proposes new safeguards against exploitation of girls by the men who impregnate them and may put them in danger. They presented stories of girls transported over state lines who underwent botched abortions and later developed health problems.

Sessions said the legislation puts no new constraints on abortion.

But the bill's opponents say it amounts to a national parental consent law that would cut off an escape route for pregnant girls with abusive parents.

"It's very dangerous to young women," said Melody Drnach, vice president for grass roots activism for the National Organization for Women. "The most vulnerable young women it leaves out are those who are victims of incest and abuse within their own family and their own network of adults. And it is not going to help grandmothers and aunts and sisters who want to help out in a time of crisis."

Other opponents said the bill was just the latest in a line of socially conservative measures GOP leaders are bringing up for congressional votes in an effort to energize the Republican Party's most loyal base of voters.

The debate rhetoric closely tracked arguments over the right to abortion. Ensign and Sessions noted that a child needs parental permission to receive aspirin at school and to go on a field trip, but no parental consent is required for an abortion.

Democrats are expected to offer amendments to add exceptions for such confidants as grandparents and clergy. One proposed amendment would provide an exception for those who help girls get abortions in other states when their pregnancies result from rape or incest.

More than 30 states have parental involvement laws, but there is no federal policy requiring other states to honor them when girls cross jurisdictions secretly to obtain abortions.

The House passed a similar bill in April 2005.

The bills are S. 403 and H.R. 748.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; abortion; hr748; parentalconsent; parentsrights; s403
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Ah, I can hear them popping tylenol at NARAL HQ already...
1 posted on 07/21/2006 2:21:10 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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To: 2nd amendment mama; A2J; Agitate; AliVeritas; Alouette; Annie03; aposiopetic; attagirl; Augie76; ...

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

2 posted on 07/21/2006 2:21:32 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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I wonder how they would feel about taking minors across state lines to buy cigarettes or sign for a high-interest credit card.
3 posted on 07/21/2006 2:28:12 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: Mr. Silverback

This may be an important bill, but I'd sure like the Senate to get moving on confirming the federal judges President Bush has named for confirmation. I'd also like the President to name the 30 or so more names for unfilled judicial vacancies.

If the conservatives want issues to go their way, they better get some judges in those lifetime federal judge jobs. One liberal federal judge can defeat a referendum passed by millions in a state election.


4 posted on 07/21/2006 2:29:45 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: Mr. Silverback

NOW and the abortion lobby are clearly on the ropes. It's time to go all out and support a constitutional amendment banning abortion. The iron is hot. The pro-life movement is galvanized thanks to the President vetoing that stupid stem-cell bill. Let the battle royale begin, IMO.


5 posted on 07/21/2006 2:33:24 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Wanna win the war on poverty? Cut taxes. Cut government spending.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

They have no feeling other than their own warped
and damning disdain for the life of the unborn...
How can Barbara Boxer represent anyone that is
pro-life..and against killing babies...they yell
about killing in Iraq...these babies never got a
chance...leave it up to the lying liberals and this
country will shrink from the human race if they get
in power....Jake


6 posted on 07/21/2006 2:34:31 PM PDT by sanjacjake
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"How can Barbara Boxer represent anyone that is
pro-life"

Since her district is San Francisco, it may not be an issue.


7 posted on 07/21/2006 2:36:15 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: linda_22003

Oops! That's Nancy Pelosi, so you DO have a point.


8 posted on 07/21/2006 2:36:51 PM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Mr. Silverback

I'm sure Hillary would not have objected if someone took Chelsea across state lines for an abortion without her knowledge or consent.


9 posted on 07/21/2006 2:37:08 PM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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To: linda_22003

As always the pro death leaders say "I am not pro abortion." Bull. If that were true they would not oppose legislation like this.


10 posted on 07/21/2006 2:38:36 PM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: Mr. Silverback
We need a federal law to give teeth to state parental notification laws. A child cannot get an aspirin without getting parents' OK but a female child can get an abortion or to be taken to have one done without her parents finding out about it. That's wrong and needs to be changed.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

11 posted on 07/21/2006 2:43:12 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Ensign and Sessions noted that a child needs parental permission to receive aspirin at school and to go on a field trip, but no parental consent is required for an abortion.


The above reminds me of straining at a knat, and swallowing a camel-- anyway, it makes about as much sense.


12 posted on 07/21/2006 2:56:48 PM PDT by THE SNOWFLAKE
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To: Mr. Silverback

Partial birth abortion is murder, disgusting and worng.


13 posted on 07/21/2006 2:59:07 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
It's time to go all out and support a constitutional amendment banning abortion.

I'd like to see us REALLY go all out and support a Right To Life Amendment that would outlaw both abortion and euthanazia.

14 posted on 07/21/2006 3:00:03 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Barbara Boxer (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., who is managing opposition to the bill during floor debate, said, "Instead of doing something to improve the health of women and girls, the Republican leadership is spending precious time on a bill that protects incest predators

Actually, I thought it was the laws that allow a child to have an abortion without the knowledge of the parents that protects the predator.

15 posted on 07/21/2006 3:02:03 PM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
The opponents here know what they like and the last thing they'll stand for is any interference.

One does wonder if Boxer's husband is into this sort of thing, or is she protecting someone else.

16 posted on 07/21/2006 3:14:27 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Having a federal law about parental notification is almost as bad as having a federal law about abortion. But, at least this would be a law that people vote on, not a mandate from a panel of judges.


17 posted on 07/21/2006 3:16:57 PM PDT by Bernard (God helps those who helps themselves - The US Government takes in the rest.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
Opponents say the bill would make criminals of well-meaning confidants, such as relatives and clergy members, who might help a pregnant teen whose parents are abusive.

Cry me a river. Go to the court to seek protection from the abusive parents.

18 posted on 07/21/2006 3:24:00 PM PDT by GretchenM (What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Please meet my friend, Jesus.)
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To: RicocheT

Excellent points.


19 posted on 07/21/2006 3:32:16 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: Bernard

Usually I'm not a big fan of any federal intervention where a state could conceivably do the job. However, this by definition is a matter involving interstate conveyance, and that means federal jurisdiction is legitimate. Also, it's legitimate for the federal government to prevent one state from undermining another state's laws.


20 posted on 07/21/2006 3:38:36 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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