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The Great Test of This Generation - Naming and defeating the enemy, Islamic fascism.
National Review Online ^ | July 20, 2006 | NA

Posted on 07/21/2006 6:36:31 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: prairiebreeze

What a beautiful rant. And I concur with every word of it.

Our Congressional Republicans have really let us down, and I'm not sure I'll ever really forgive them for not standing with our president in a time of war.

What's really shocking to me is that when Clinton declared a little mini war on Iraq during the height of the impeachment scandal, Republicans pulled back and supported him.

So they supported a democrat president who only acted out of a desire to save his presidency rather than a real threat to the nation, but they couldn't and mostly didn't support a Republican president during a time of real danger. It speaks volumes about Congressional Republicans and none of it is to their credit.


21 posted on 07/22/2006 5:04:18 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Thanks for the ping. A day late and a dollar short, but at least he's standing up to be counted.


22 posted on 07/22/2006 5:06:01 AM PDT by Iowa Granny (Dances with Hoses)
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To: neverdem

Bookmark


23 posted on 07/22/2006 5:29:05 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Peach

There is no middle ground in the WOT. One either identifies the enemy and vows to oppose it or one doesn't.

Evil flourishes when good men do (and say) nothing. Spineless republicans are almost as much an enemy of the nation as moonbat Democrats.


24 posted on 07/22/2006 5:33:09 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: RouxStir
Yeah it would really make a lot of sense for us to covert the bulk of our allies into enemies. You DO realize that most of the people doing the fighting and dying ON OUR SIDE are Muslim Iraqis, Pakistanis and Afghanis.

The Russians tried your dogma in Afghanistan during the 1980s. How did that work out for them?
25 posted on 07/22/2006 6:02:28 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Fire Murtha Now! Spread the word. Support Diana Irey. http://www.irey.com/)
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To: RouxStir

Stupid, STUPID demand.

If you're at war with every Muslim, no matter who, where, what they're like, etc. you must kill them for being Muslim. You must kill the Iraqis that are already fighting and dying on our side. You must kill the Muslim leaders of all the nations no matter what they are like. The King of Jordan must die instead of meeting with our President. All Jordanians even the ones who helped us kill Zarqawi must themselves be killed. (Don't bother spouting some nonsense about all we have to do is wipe out Mecca and Medina.) Not to mention the millions of Muslims and their blood running in the streets of America.

No, what we need are people leading us who aren't dumber than a box of rocks, who will exploit the divisions and anachronisms and fissures and weaknesses of that religion and it's nations and peoples, and work with some of them against the others.

In other words, allies from within their own ranks. Which is what we are doing, because the leadership we have isn't dumber than a box of rocks, thank God.


26 posted on 07/22/2006 6:03:47 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: neverdem
Islamic fascists

He's repeating himself.

27 posted on 07/22/2006 6:12:56 AM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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To: MNJohnnie; prairiebreeze; Peach

I knew this thread would draw the "declare war against the religion of Islam" crowd. I'm sorry to be on the same website with them. Though I won't - after stating the obvious and getting it off my chest - engage in futile debate with these people. There isn't anything there to debate with. Good morning to you all and thanks for your posts. Now I'm off to take care of my mom, the same as every day and night 24-7.


28 posted on 07/22/2006 6:12:57 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: txrangerette

Be sure and take good care of yourself too. God bless you both.


29 posted on 07/22/2006 6:38:23 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Thanks, prairie...doing my best. Now taking a break from the morning's activities.


30 posted on 07/22/2006 8:20:29 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: Defiant
You are absolutely right. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim: a "moderate Muslim" simply does not understand the Koran. Our war is not against "terrorism"
(a method) it is against Islamic jihadists and Sharia
Law.
31 posted on 07/22/2006 9:25:20 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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To: prairiebreeze

Just now seeing your "rant" and I totally concur. I had his speech at the Press Club streamed the other day..and I had to turn it off.

I was so disappointed that he is doing it NOW..and at the Press Club,...

Why couldn't he have been using every opportunity he had to stand up ON THE RECORD and say it in the Senate?


32 posted on 07/22/2006 9:44:43 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: neverdem
A better article. People like Santorum WANT it to be WW3 or 4 because they have been utterly defeated in domestic politics and long for a replacement for the Cold War to make themselves sellable and relevant. The main threat to the West from Islam is Muslim immigration. Islamic terrorism in the West is a result of that immigration and the self-loathing, suicidal attitude that invited it. Is Ricky-boy on the record calling for an end to Muslim immigration into the U.S. and West? You can bet your ass he's not. Wouldn't be prudent, wouldn't be PC.
33 posted on 07/22/2006 11:07:24 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: neverdem

Santorum bump.


34 posted on 07/22/2006 11:43:06 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Islamofascism = Evil + Insanity)
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To: jeltz25
Al Qaeda already have a "corporate/govt" connection in the mullahocracy that runs Iran, the Taliban gov. that ran Afghanistan for 6 years, the Hizbollan Jihadistan in S. Lebanon, and the socialist Islamic republic of Libya--not to mention the Baathist ideal of Islamic socialism. That is plenty of political/ideological grist for any eutopian Islamic jihadist to draw from. The nationalism comes from the concept of the ummah, i.e., the unified body of Muslims united under a single khalifa. Sounds facist to me. Ever see these clowns goose-step? Looks like Brownshirts at an Arab-theme Nazi party rally.
35 posted on 07/22/2006 11:46:30 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: jeltz25
There have been persistent attempts in the Muslim world to build a synthesis of Communism and Islam. The Baath Party was one attempt. Hizbollah is another. Libya's Qaddafi has tried to do the same as well a Ben Bella of Algeria. Many Muzzies see the primitive ideals of Islam's founder and the Communist ideals of wealth redistribution as completely compatible. See chap. 9, "II. Support of Terror by Radical Muslim States" at this link
36 posted on 07/22/2006 11:53:43 AM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: jordan8

I cannot see how any one could be so wrong. The war has already started. Remember 9-11. Well there will be more 9-11s and eventually WMDs will be used by the radical muzzies. No question about it. I think we ought to finally treat this as the war it actually is and bring back the draft, drill for every once of oil we can outside the ME, start rebuilding our industrial base, eliminate most immigration both legal and illegal. Round up people who don't belong here and send them home. That much I agree with you about and it may well get to that point some time in the near future. Let a suitcase nuke go off in downtown DC or NYC and you can make book on it.


37 posted on 07/22/2006 12:00:50 PM PDT by attiladhun2 (evolution has both deified and degraded humanity)
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To: txrangerette

"In other words, allies from within their own ranks"

By their own definition, a Muslim can't be anything more than a temporary ally with an Infidel.

eg The US's ally Pakistan cotinues to aid the Taliban, distribute nuclear know how to other Muslim States.

eg The Saudis who continue to fund militant Wahabi Islamic teaching throughout the world.

The leadership in Jordan, the exception you mention, is not militant, because it's power base is the Bedouin, and not the Arab.


38 posted on 07/22/2006 12:26:18 PM PDT by plenipotentiary
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To: Salem

It's progress- but it's still an insistence on QUALIFYING things.
The enemy is ISLAM- as a belief system.
Just as our enemy in WW2 was not Hitlers SS, it was the Nazism from which they sprang- our enemy now is not just Islam's SS
( facists/terrorists), it is the toxic death cult for which they are the shock-troop soldiers.
When the country- and the free world as a whole- can face that, THEN we will have positioned ourselves for victory.


39 posted on 07/23/2006 6:56:00 PM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: ClearBlueSky
Understood!  !
40 posted on 07/23/2006 7:42:13 PM PDT by Salem (FREE REPUBLIC - Fighting to win within the Arena of the War of Ideas! So get in the fight!)
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