'Times' Curbs Its First Amendment Enthusiasm When It Comes to Tobacco

New York Times/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

[Gabz]

Excellent book!!!!! My copy is well worn....and I think it's tie to pull it off the shelf and reread it!

Have you read "Dissecting Antismokers Brains" by Michael McFadden? Excellently researched work by an infrequent poster, but fellow FReeper. I'll see if I can hunt up the website for you.

[LSAggie]

Here in Missouri, the anti-smoking nazis are going for an 80 cent a pack tax on cigarettes to fund non-profits who goal is to stop smoking!! Methinks there are a bunch of people whose children have worthless sociology degrees and need a job, and who better to fund it than the smokers.

Re: your tagline. I've been making ours for about a year, should have started much sooner. Better tobacco, less cost. I hate to keep having it pointed out though because it's a situation that state and federal legislators can "fix" easily enough.

[par4]

Freon was banned by increasing the tax on it and limiting its use

Freon isn't banned, DuPont's patent on R-19 expired and coincindentially the Gov't mandated a change to R134 for "environmental reasons".

Stioll ots and lots of freon out there, especially in larger chillers; R-19 was a consumer product. Nice try, though.

[RandallFlagg]

Dig up the names of the leaders of those, "Nonprofit," groups wanting $$$ from smokers. You might find that they're all, ALL democrat contributers.

Stephanie Steinberg, chairwoman of Smoke-Free Gaming of Colorado, for example:

STEINBERG, STEPHANIE M
DENVER, CO 80202
COMMUNITY VOLUNTEER
STRICKLAND, THOMAS LEE
VIA STRICKLAND FOR COLORADO INC
10/19/2002 500.00 22020970584

STEINBERG, STEPHANIE M
DENVER, CO 80202
COLORADO SENATE 2002
03/06/2002 1000.00

STEINBERG, STEPHANIE M
DENVER, CO 80202
STRICKLAND, THOMAS LEE
VIA STRICKLAND FOR COLORADO INC
03/11/2002 1000.00

ALL democrat ALL the time.

[383rr]

"Bush's Surgeon General just came out with a scathing report on SHS which will be used as fuel for the fire for thje rapidly growing smoking bans and tax increases. Nothing in this proposal isn't being done right now."

Ah, the fabled man behind the curtain speaks.

We all know he the words he speaks are absolute truths.

Say it with me RAYMAN, I BEEEEEEEEELLLIIVEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

Hey, post some cartoons for me. I have yet to have a good laugh today.

[383rr]

"Makes me want to light up another."

I just did.

[383rr]

"These folks go beyond rude and border on abuse"

You got that right! That description fits the IRS to tee!

[383rr]

"Freon was banned by increasing the tax on it and limiting its use"

Wow. Your car must have the world's first hypo-non-froenic-air-conditioner.
I haven't ran across one yet in the shop. I'm glad you mentioned it, as I can now get rid of all my AC equipment.

[383rr]

"On fatty foods, it would be pretty tough to garner the same support because most people are not made uncomfortable by the person at the next table eating a Big Mac."

Wow. You need to come out from under that large pile of schedule C's and read more on this forum.

The assualt on food is well under way.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1648884/posts

And if you'd bother to look, ther's more.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[383rr]

ther's=there's.
But we all knew that, didn't we?

[Just A Nobody]

Have you read "Dissecting Antismokers Brains" by Michael McFadden?

No, but if you are recommending it, I will certainly put it on my reading list!

I was just thinking it was a good afternoon to read. I agree...I think it is time to revisit For Your Own Good in anticipation of our upcoming assault. ;*)

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

On the other hand cig smokers could care less if the other person near them is bothered.

I light up to cover up the smell of non-smokers.

[Just A Nobody]

LOL!

There was a bit of a tussle outside Walter Reed Friday night. As the LEOs tried to calm everyone, one of the code pinko commies waved at the air and told the officer our guys were polluting their air space.

The officer looked at her and told her it is NOT against the law to smoke outside in DC. She was so angry!

[Gabz]

Michael gets into a lot about the mind set of the antis, as well as the scientific reseach, but does it in laymen's terms. It's a good read.


It does seem to be a good afternoon to read, but I did that already this morning. As soon as I finish up with laundry, etc. (and the rain holds off) I'm going out to set netting on my blueberry and blackberry bushes to keep the birds off my fruit :) And then harvest and put up my basil.

[Gabz]

OMG...........you're kidding? One of them actually had the nerve to say that....criminy.

[Raycpa]

Why do smokers as a whole have such contradictory logic in their points? On the one hand there is no majority, on the other hand the majority is because of a propoganda machine. Which is it?

Where did you come up with this elusive "huge majority support" nonsense? How was it measured and by whom?

The smoke nazis did not have the alleged "support" when they began their campaign. The alleged "support" was garnered via a propaganda campaign over a few decades.

[Raycpa]

Do you think the NY Times is hypocritical in their call for us to sign onto 'the tobacco treaty'?

As seen through that light, yes. As seen through the only lense they use, which is to bash conservatives in general and Bush specifically, no.

[Raycpa]

Freon isn't banned,

It is essentially banned by taxes .

[Raycpa]

You use R12?