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Moderates: Dems should talk about religion ["There is a downside if it's not authentic,"...]
Press of Atlantic City ^

Posted on 07/23/2006 4:52:41 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Moderates: Dems should talk about religion By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer Published: Sunday, July 23, 2006 Updated: Sunday, July 23, 2006

DENVER (AP) - Rather than being bashful, Democrats should openly talk about their religious beliefs and moral values, say moderates urging the party to court voters beyond the traditional Democratic base to win control of the GOP-run Congress this fall and the presidency in 2008.

"If we continue to have this perception in the Democratic Party that faith can't be discussed, we'll continue to lose elections based on wedge issues," said Terrance Carroll, a Colorado state representative.

The view, espoused by Democrats attending the centrist Democratic Leadership Council's annual meeting, could irritate liberals who advocate a strict separation of church and state.

But moderates claim that invoking religion will help Democrats connect with churchgoing Americans - including Republicans and independents - who polls show are more apt to vote with the GOP.

"Democrats have run from the values issues. We now have to deal with those issues of faith," said Randal Mangham, a state representative in Georgia.

(Excerpt) Read more at pressofatlanticcity.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dlc; midterms; valuesvote
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well duh..........
1 posted on 07/23/2006 4:52:42 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver
For godless liberals, religion is a Republican trick to steal an election. No wonder they're outraged when the subject is raised.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

2 posted on 07/23/2006 4:54:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

I thought the Dems had this coming November sewed up. Just keep on doin' what you're doin', guys, and you'll take it walking away! We Hate Bush, Bush Lied and People Died, Culture of Corruption, Gay Marriage For All... what's not to like, right? The last thing you need to worry about is all that G-d stuff. Ugh. Leave that to flyover country.


3 posted on 07/23/2006 4:58:55 PM PDT by Steely Tom
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To: Sub-Driver
"The secret of success is sincerity. Once you can fake that you've got it made."

Jean Giraudoux (1882 - 1944)

4 posted on 07/23/2006 5:00:24 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Sub-Driver

Again, to quote Mark Twain......"They've got the words but they don't have the music."

Maybe not an exact quote but you get the idea.


5 posted on 07/23/2006 5:03:02 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Its a riot when they start quoting scripture incorrectly, sometimes even reversing the message.


6 posted on 07/23/2006 5:03:04 PM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: Sub-Driver
"There is no peace for the wicked" says the Lord.

Isaiah 48:22


7 posted on 07/23/2006 5:03:09 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Sub-Driver
Well, I'm sure Howlin' Howie Dean was perfectly sincere when he said that Job was his favorite book in the New Testament...
8 posted on 07/23/2006 5:05:36 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: PeterPrinciple

I like the quote....


9 posted on 07/23/2006 5:05:54 PM PDT by Sub-Driver (Proud member of the Republican wing of the Republican Party)
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To: Sub-Driver
The view, espoused by Democrats attending the centrist Democratic Leadership Council's annual meeting, could irritate liberals who advocate a strict separation of church and state.

Well, except when Jesse and Al and their colleagues invite them to their churches to endorse them and let them campaign speak to the congregation...but who's counting?

10 posted on 07/23/2006 5:09:07 PM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and boy, is He one unhappy camper. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: Sub-Driver

Yep Kerry misquoting the Bible really got my vote--NOT.

Its hard to talk religion when one is totally ignorant of it. All the Dems have come out with, are religious justifications of their old stand bys.

"Feeding the poor is Biblical so you will burn if we can't go into your pocketbooks and take money-its for the poor, stupid!"


"Babies aren't human so its OK to kill them. But murderers ARE human so we can't kill them."" Yep, THAT'll win the Christian right.

That said, talking the talk and walking the walk are two different things. People will always spot a phony.



11 posted on 07/23/2006 5:10:44 PM PDT by Cyclops08
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To: Sub-Driver
The view, espoused by Democrats attending the centrist Democratic Leadership Council's annual meeting, could irritate liberals who advocate a strict separation of church and state control of the unwashed masses.

There ... fixed it

12 posted on 07/23/2006 5:13:00 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: RichInOC
The view, espoused by Democrats attending the fake-out leftist Democratic Leadership Council's annual meeting, could irritate liberals who advocate a policy of state-enforced atheism.

That's more like the truth about who they really are. But the Drive By Media won't acknowledge it.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

13 posted on 07/23/2006 5:13:57 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Sub-Driver

Same ole same ole. "How can we put a new coat of lipstick on this pig and get the rubes to buy it?"


14 posted on 07/23/2006 5:16:48 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: goldstategop

This is interesting to watch. They never get past reinterating their platform and calling it values. In this story you can see why. They know what they believe and want to use religous terms and snipets to back that up. They don't surrender their will to the Lord. Will we have a bunch of ex-communicated Catholics saying they know better than the bishops, again?


15 posted on 07/23/2006 5:28:49 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Unfortunately, they have a major problem here. It's sort of like Dean saying he had to take the flag from Rush.

The DUmmies don't WANT the flag, and they certainly don't want religion, especially those icky fundies.


16 posted on 07/23/2006 5:46:51 PM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: Sub-Driver
Democrats should openly talk about their religious beliefs and moral values,

That should take all of 2 seconds.

17 posted on 07/23/2006 5:48:45 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Sub-Driver
Democrats talk honestly about religion all the time. It goes like this.

Christians are hate mongers, all other religions are beautifully multicultural.
18 posted on 07/23/2006 6:13:31 PM PDT by SampleMan
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To: I still care
The DUmmies don't WANT the flag, and they certainly don't want religion, especially those icky fundies.

To them, "religion" is playing with snakes and going to NASCAR races. "Content" never comes into the picture for them.

19 posted on 07/23/2006 8:50:19 PM PDT by thulldud ("Para ingles, oprima el dos.")
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To: RichInOC; Liz; MurryMom
Well, except when Jesse and Al and their colleagues invite them to their churches...

I do recall the Reverend "and the glory of the Lord shall be REVEALED" Algore working up a sweat on the campaign trail.

That worked out well for all of us...

20 posted on 07/23/2006 9:17:46 PM PDT by Libloather (I would give my left arm to be ambidextrous...)
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