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7/24 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/24/06 | me

Posted on 07/23/2006 10:22:28 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

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To: conservativepoet

In an operation like this, there is going to have to be some probing of your enemies defenses. Unfortunately, you can end up get hit with some strong resistence at first.

I'm sure the IDF will adapt and overcome any weakness in their plans.


61 posted on 07/23/2006 11:27:05 PM PDT by Proud_USA_Republican (We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good. - Hillary Clinton)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"I'm sure the IDF will adapt and overcome any weakness in their plans."

Yes, I agree. In fact, it sounds like they've already begun adjusting as they approach the next city. This exposure will prove valuable for future combat training.


62 posted on 07/23/2006 11:32:10 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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63 posted on 07/23/2006 11:32:50 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: conservativepoet

AT-3 SAGGER Anti-Tank Guided Missile
Hongjian (Red Arrow)-73

Specifications
Alternative Designations Malyutka Complex
Launching Platforms Manpack
BMD
BMP
BRDM/BRDM-2
Mi-8 Hip
Mi-24 Hind
Date of Introduction 1963
Proliferation At least 45 countries, including: Former Soviet Republics, Afghanistan, Algeria, Angola, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, Cuba, Egypt, Ethiopia, Hungary, Iraq, India, North Korea, Libya, Mozambique, Poland, Romania, Syria, Uganda, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Zambia.
Description  
Crew 3
Primary Mount Ground mount on "suitcase" launcher
Alternate Mounts Rail on BMP-1, BMD-1, BRDM, BRDM-2 etc.
Weight Overall, Excluding Missile (kg) 30.5 launcher + guidance
Length Overall in Firing Position (m) 0.86 with AT-3/a/b/c
1.02 with Malyutka-2
Height Overall In Firing Position (m) INA
Width Overall In Firing Position (m) INA
ARMAMENT  
Launcher Name 9P111 Case launcher
Launch Method Rail on case
Elevation (°) Fixed for launcher
Rate of Launch (missiles/min) 2
Reaction Time (sec) INA
Emplacement Time (min) 1.7 POLK set
Displacement Time (min) INA
Ready/Stowed Missiles 4/0, 3/0 POLK set
FIRE CONTROL  
FCS Name 9S415/9S415M/9S415M1 guidance panel
Guidance MCLOS (9S415/-M panel), SACLOS
Command Link Wire
Beacon Type Incandescent infrared bulb (SACLOS)
Tracker Type N/A for MCLOS, flare tracker for SACLOS
Susceptible To Countermeasures EO jammers, smoke, counterfire
Counter-countermeasures Offset guidance panel, laser filters
Rangefinder INA
Frequency INA
Counter-countermeasures INA
Sights w/Magnification  
Gunner  
Day 9Sh16, 8x
Field of View (°) 22.5
Acquisition Range (m) 4000
Night Available
Field of View (°) N/A
Acquisition Range (m) N/A
AMMUNITION  
Antitank Guided Missiles  
Name AT-3, -3a, -3b/SAGGER
Alternative Designations Malyutka, Malyutka-M
Missile Weight (kg) 10.9
Warhead Type Shaped Charge (HEAT)
Armor Penetration (mm) 400
Minimum/Maximum Range (m) 500/3,000
Probability of Hit (%) 70 against moving tanks
Average Velocity (m/s) 115
Time of Flight to Max Range (sec) 26
Name AT-3c/SAGGER
Alternative Designations Malyutka-P
Missile Weight (kg) 11.4
Warhead Type Shaped Charge (HEAT)
Armor Penetration (mm) 520
Minimum/Maximum Range (m) 500/3,000
Probability of Hit (%) 90 (SACLOS)
Average Velocity (m/s) 115
Time of Flight to Max Range (sec) 26
Name Malyutka-2
Alternative Designations Malyutka (Modernized)
Missile Weight (kg) 12.5
Warhead Type Tandem Shaped Charge (HEAT)
Armor Penetration (mm) 800
Minimum/Maximum Range (m) 500/3,00
Probability of Hit (%) 90 (SACLOS)
Average Velocity (m/s) 130
Time of Flight to Max Range (sec) 23
Other Missiles Malyutka (Modernized) HE, AT-3c Imp, POLK

64 posted on 07/23/2006 11:38:37 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds. " - Ayn Rand)
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A vehicle burns after it was struck by an Israeli warplane missile next to a Lebanese army checkpoint at the southern Lebanon city of Tyre on Sunday.
65 posted on 07/23/2006 11:40:36 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: bruinbirdman

Thanks for the chart. Great info.


66 posted on 07/23/2006 11:42:05 PM PDT by conservativepoet
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Israeli Shaoul Feldman checks if his piano still works at his apartment after it was directly hit by a rocket fired by Hezbollah guerrillas from neighboring Lebanon in the northern Israeli city of Haifa on Sunday.
67 posted on 07/23/2006 11:42:26 PM PDT by monkapotamus
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To: BurbankKarl

here


68 posted on 07/23/2006 11:46:55 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: BurbankKarl

Go IDF Go


70 posted on 07/23/2006 11:49:55 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: kellynla

The US should airlift Mookies men to Lebanon..get em out of Iraq and into the line of Israeli fire..of course they'll have to find a cemetary to hide in


71 posted on 07/23/2006 11:52:04 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: rebel_yell2

I just lurk on these threads but that was not a nice thing to say.


72 posted on 07/23/2006 11:59:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters
IDNBTP

Okay, I'll bite -- "In, Definitely Not"?

73 posted on 07/24/2006 12:00:29 AM PDT by umbagi (Monthly Donor [entry level])
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To: BurbankKarl
Via a reader at Little Green Footballs -

Hizballah's Terror Weapons

LGF reader Amy emailed pictures of the objects Hizballah is placing in their Katyusha terror rockets, and the damage they cause. (The Israeli one shekel coin in the first picture is for scale.)

Pictures here -

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=21730_Hizballahs_Terror_Weapons&only

74 posted on 07/24/2006 12:07:18 AM PDT by ajolympian2004
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10:10 IDF strikes over 270 targets in Lebanon overnight (Haaretz)

10:10 IAF destroys 9 rocket launchers in area of Tyre, southern Lebanon (Israel Radio)

09:39 Olmert: IDF went into Lebanon to fight Hezbollah threat, not kidnappings (Haaretz)


75 posted on 07/24/2006 12:13:31 AM PDT by conservativepoet
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Latest from the Ynet feed:


79 posted on 07/24/2006 12:48:46 AM PDT by umbagi (Monthly Donor [entry level])
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Factory owners told to install rocket warning systems on their own
With and beginning with this post I hereby declare my intent to execute a Fair Funckle, subject to appropriate FRules and FRegulations.
80 posted on 07/24/2006 1:15:54 AM PDT by umbagi (Monthly Donor [entry level])
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