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Child Killed By Falling Mirror At Wal-Mart
The Indy Channel ^ | 7-23-2006

Posted on 07/24/2006 6:12:21 AM PDT by Samwise

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To: Graybeard58

>>You are adding to it. It does not say that 2 people
>>were "needed" to lift it, only that 2 people lifted it.
>>In the excitement after the accident there could have
>>been 6 people lifting it, that wouldn't mean that 6
>>people were needed to lift it.

From the story: "Police said it took two people to pull the mirror off the boy." From the link at the top of the thread.

I take that and if it was a 10 pound mirror that this tragic event would probably have had a happier outcome.


741 posted on 07/25/2006 7:43:37 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: ladyjane
>>The boy is not yet buried and they have a lawyer.
>>I guess people cope with their grief in different ways.

I haven't been in an accident, and am not planning to sue anyone, I have a lawyer, actually several, Wills, business, that kind of stuff.

having a lawyer is OK, calling him about wills, life insurance, also OK. Press conferences over the coffin, quoting your Lawyer during said press conference, Weird. JMHO
742 posted on 07/25/2006 7:50:20 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: DelphiUser

Read the update posted at 736.


743 posted on 07/25/2006 7:52:29 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: DelphiUser
(some would say Darwin awardable, is awardable a word?)

Really? For a 3 year old child?

744 posted on 07/25/2006 7:53:40 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: DelphiUser
I haven't been in an accident, and am not planning to sue anyone, I have a lawyer
745 posted on 07/25/2006 7:55:12 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: DelphiUser
I haven't been in an accident, and am not planning to sue anyone, I have a lawyer

I doubt that she has a lawyer on staff. She's trying to raise money to bury her child.

746 posted on 07/25/2006 7:55:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: csvset
Family members declined an on-camera interview but are working to raise money to transport Antonio's body back to Mexico to be buried.

Wow, are they illegals? Does the story say?

747 posted on 07/25/2006 8:05:30 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: King of Florida

A lot of assumed facts here, true. But if an object is placed in such a way that it could do harm to anyone--child, shopper, employee--then the ownership of the store is responsible for those who made that possible. Unless the little boy had a good set of tools and knew how to use them or was swinging an 8 pound sledge, someone screwed up. Just as easily could have fallen when a sweet old lady in a motorized car hit it or any number of other events that could be reasonably expected to happen over the course of the life of the store. Something like a five year old boy probably doing what five year old boys often do is one of those things. Either the mirror mount was poorly designed , or it was not installed as designed or had been damged at some point and not repaired. Those who would blame it on the parent are just silly, which is about the tamest description I could muster.


748 posted on 07/25/2006 8:34:06 AM PDT by metalcor
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To: metalcor
A lot of assumed facts here, true.

Yes there are, guess you assumed the boy was 5, when the fact is the boy that died was only 3 yrs. old.

He was accompanied by his 5 yr. old sister & mother.

Is WM at fault here ??? that's yet to be decided.

However, Most agree that no 3 yr. old should be out of the cart & roaming the store, while mother shops & also watches 5 yr, old.

Interesting that you call us *silly*, if we point out some of the Mother's own negligence......

What do you call this mother that is still "looking for funds to bury her child", that has already "declined to comment on the advice of their lawyer."

Since the mother admits to only HEARING this tragedy, obviously she was not watching BOTH of her children, while she also shopped.

749 posted on 07/25/2006 9:11:44 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: metalcor

oops !!

However, Most agree that no 3 yr. old should NOT be out of the cart


750 posted on 07/25/2006 9:15:20 AM PDT by txdoda (Voters to Gov't .......Re: post 9-11 Border Security....... ""The results are Unacceptable."")
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To: Minutemen
I hate to inform you, but Starbucks would not exist if not for lefties swilling $4 cups of that coffee.

Pardon me but I live in Portland, after moving here from Seattle. And while the pampered Lefties swill Starbucks Coffee by the gallons, I can mark on a map of both cities which locations are repeatedly atacked by hardcore Lefty terrorists. After the one on 26th and Division opened it was fire bombed at least twice. Go back and watch the Seattle WTO riots and tell me which shops were being destroyed. I dont argue that Starbucks is not a Left leaning corporation. But it is a corporation subject to the hate and violence of What Is Being Left, nonetheless.

751 posted on 07/25/2006 10:18:59 AM PDT by Mr.Atos (http://mysandmen.blogspot.com)
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To: RandallFlagg
Indeed! tTe irony and the lesson. First they came for Walmart. Then they came for Starbucks...

... then they came for me.

752 posted on 07/25/2006 10:20:29 AM PDT by Mr.Atos (http://mysandmen.blogspot.com)
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To: Graybeard58
Combining a bunch of replies here:

More info has arrived since I first posted the Two person thing, that said a six foot tall mirror would be quite heavy, two people to move it is not unreasonable.

Darwin awards, well, that was kind of bad taste, can I plead lack of sleep?

Having a lawyer is not the problem, kind of like guns, it's not the gun, but how you use it. In this case it's not that they have a lawyer, it's what they are doing and how with him/her that matters

Either case, I think this is a tragic, event. (I can't imagine watching from five feet as my child dies.) I think Wall-Mart will settle out of court just to avoid the controversy.

I hope the family does not get a huge settlement, because Wall-Mart did not do anything that is uncommonly dangerous. maybe there will be a new regulation for floor mounted mirrors. Better yet, let insurance companies bill more for companies that don't take proper precautions.
753 posted on 07/25/2006 12:16:44 PM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: txdoda

"Another fact in this story is that there was also a 5 yr. old sister, so where was she ??"
You don't know so you jump to a conclusion. What an excellent way to feel superior and heap blame on someone who has just lost a three year old child.
Do you actually imagine you are the only one on FR who has raised children and that you are in a position to condemn anyone because you didn't have a child crushed by a falling mirror in a Wal-Mart store?
Your hubris is unpleasant to see on display.


754 posted on 07/25/2006 1:28:07 PM PDT by em2vn
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To: Onelifetogive

Turning your back on a child, especially a 3 yr old, is irresponsible!


755 posted on 07/25/2006 1:38:50 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: tutstar
Turning your back on a child, especially a 3 yr old, is irresponsible!

Be careful saying that. You'll get flogged and called an egotistical perfect parent for stating the truth.

756 posted on 07/25/2006 1:46:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: Samwise

I haven't read all 700 + posts so if this has been said, sorry. But a mirror in a Macy's dressing room fell and killed a little girl who was shopping with her grandma just about a week or so ago.


757 posted on 07/25/2006 1:54:08 PM PDT by RichRepublican (Some days you're the windshield--some days you're the bug.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So be it!

I can't believe the number of young children that are let out to play alone! There are sex offenders in every direction and it is just not safe especially in a city.


758 posted on 07/25/2006 4:22:58 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: FearlessFreep
"Please do not play on or near mirror as it may cause injury or death".

Having hung a few mirrors, I can only imagine what a 5' by 37 inches mirror weighs (assuming the "golden ratio"). Probably around 100 pounds.

Why would anyone leave a free-standing, unrestrained mirror that size where kids can get to it?

759 posted on 07/27/2006 4:57:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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760 posted on 09/20/2009 7:15:17 PM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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