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Questionable books (Minuteman-Simcox)
The Washington Times ^ | July 25, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/24/2006 10:16:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Petronski
Which of the ten of us is Michelle Malkin? Which one of us got the WashTimes editorial placed? Which of us is John Gibson?

I was talking about the crowd on Free Republic who have an unhealthy fascination with this topic. I'm turned off by them because they are complete phonies. All of them suffer from cognitive dissonance when it comes to President Bush and are demonizing members of the Minutemen not because they are genuinly concerned with the well-being of the organization, but because they hated them from their inception and truly hope to see the organization fail.

I've read your posts in the past. You tend to be an honest guy. Can you honestly tell me that the regulars on this thread are bigger fans of President Bush than the average freeper?

361 posted on 07/26/2006 9:31:51 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Amelia
Anyone up for a game of "connect the dots"? Check out this thread, Then press here, And finally, here. Do y'all see what I see?

I honestly don't see the conspiracy you're trying to link up here. I did notice this on one of your links though...

Cox says he is a Republican in the tradition of Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp, favoring "solutions that involve less government, more free markets, more competition, more entrepreneurship."

No wonder you hate the guy.

362 posted on 07/26/2006 9:35:07 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Paige
Here we go again with the Conservatives eating their own for the world to see.

The regulars on these threads are not conservatives. Google up any of their screen names along with the terms "Harriet Miers", "Medicare Prescription Plan" or "No Child Left Behind" and you'll understand their rabid obsession with this topic.

363 posted on 07/26/2006 9:37:56 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Howlin
I, for one -- and I don't think I'm alone -- am sick and tired of being played by all these interlocking groups who spend FIVE CENTS of every dollar on the "agenda" they beg for.

Are you claiming that you've donated to the Minutemen in the past?

364 posted on 07/26/2006 9:39:19 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Paige
While we are whining about money not being appropriately used, why not raise some questions about how government money is wasted and elected officials aren't held accountable.

Do you really think these people care about fiscal conservatism?

365 posted on 07/26/2006 9:42:28 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Texasforever
BTW stop with the "more conservative than thou" crap. That is is another description of a John Birch conspiracy freak.

Dude, 97% of freepers are more conservative than you.

366 posted on 07/26/2006 9:43:21 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: Rex Anderson
He spent 100 posts on how awful it was to link to the SPLC, yet he linked to all kinds of nefarious sites for Guiliani pics

Rex, there's a hell of a big difference between a hard-left organization who publishes slander (and you seem to be so fond of) and a site that hosts undoctored pictures. There's not even a comparison.

367 posted on 07/26/2006 9:45:19 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813

If you're talking about only people on Free Republic who are keeping this alive, you have a basic problem, since the threads all stem from outside forces and events, like the Malkin blog, or the WashTimes article, or the WashTimes editorial.

Real events are keeping this alive. Chris Simcox is keeping it alive too, with his Alfred E. Newman approach to serious questions about his outfit.


368 posted on 07/26/2006 9:45:52 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: jmc813
...between a hard-left organization who publishes slander...

Is there slander in the material posted in the Simcox threads?

...undoctored pictures...

You are saying it's okay to publish truthful content from a nefarious source, yet you object to the information from SPLC. You must therefore have proof that the SPLC-sourced info is false. Do tell.

369 posted on 07/26/2006 9:50:02 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Petronski; chicagolady; Leatherneck_MT; Spiff; EternalVigilance; Lurker; Halcontent; Paige; ...
If you're talking about only people on Free Republic who are keeping this alive, you have a basic problem, since the threads all stem from outside forces and events, like the Malkin blog, or the WashTimes article, or the WashTimes editorial.

I don't have a problem with people who genuinely support the Minutemen raising questions. It is healthy. If there is any nonsense going on, I will be the first to call for Simcox to be prosecuted.

What I do have a big problem with are the freepers who have opposed the Minutemen from the very beginning acting as if they are part of the border security movement and feigning worry about how this might negativly affect the Minutemen when, in reality, they would love to see the organization crumble.

As I previously mentioned, even though I've disagreed with you in the past, you're always straightforward and honest. Can you honestly tell me that my characterization of these folks is not accurate?

370 posted on 07/26/2006 9:52:53 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
If there is any nonsense going on, I will be the first to call for Simcox to be prosecuted.

You're just uninterested in finding out if there is nonsense going on.

371 posted on 07/26/2006 9:54:08 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Rex Anderson
They are still facts, and independent thinkers (without the emotional 'true conservative' baggage you bring here) are capable of analyzing the discrepancies in Simcox's own words.

You're right Rex. You guys really are independent thinkers. I mean, I remember how much you guys were criticizing President Bush over his weakness on the border security issue. Oh, and the support you guys have had for Tom Tancredo in the past has been inspiring. I also remember you guys encouraging freepers to donate to the Minutemen when they first started.

I find it really refreshing that border security advocates like you guys are able to think so independently that you raise questions on this topic. It must be really difficult.

372 posted on 07/26/2006 9:56:14 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: EternalVigilance; Howlin
That has to be the most ridiculous post you've ever made.

She did claim that you can be pro-abortion and anti-gun and still be conservative on a Giuliani thread a few weeks ago. That was pretty out there.

373 posted on 07/26/2006 9:58:20 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: MikefromOhio
Prove that there is no fire EV.

Did you attend college? If so, you should know that it is impossible to prove a negative.

374 posted on 07/26/2006 10:01:49 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
Did you attend college? If so, you should know that it is impossible to prove a negative.

Until you prove that I've EVER been a cheerleader for the spending policies of the President, maybe you shouldn't post to me. You have absolutley NO pull here, and no credibility.
375 posted on 07/26/2006 10:03:04 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Hi. This is the artist formerly known as MikeinIraq. Your message is being forwarded to /dev/null.)
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To: jmc813

"As I previously mentioned, even though I've disagreed with you in the past, you're always straightforward and honest. Can you honestly tell me that my characterization of these folks is not accurate?"

I think your characterization is dead on accurate. Proof of that is the responses you get from "them".

Any negative response I get from the likes of that crowd, I wear as a badge of honor. I'd rather be against them than with them.

(in most cases)


376 posted on 07/26/2006 10:03:33 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: Petronski
You're just uninterested in finding out if there is nonsense going on.

If there is, Simcox willed be nailed by the IRS. The conspiracies some freepers are posting are nothing but pure speculation.

I'll ask again. Was my characterization of the typical freeper on these threads at least somewhat accurate?

377 posted on 07/26/2006 10:03:57 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: jmc813
She did claim that you can be pro-abortion and anti-gun and still be conservative on a Giuliani thread a few weeks ago.

Link it right here. I can wait.

378 posted on 07/26/2006 10:04:43 AM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: EternalVigilance
That's why your pack of jackals has posted the names of dozens of conservative movement folks

Did you see where they tried to drag Kristinn Taylor into this? When it was pointed out that he runs the FR DC chapter, they dummied up on him really quick.

379 posted on 07/26/2006 10:06:00 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: MikefromOhio
If he doesn't know, he can say so.

NOBODY knows anything at this point. The financial details have not been released. I suggest you take a refresher course in logic because I've notice two logical errors from in less than 20 posts.

380 posted on 07/26/2006 10:09:58 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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