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To: LachlanMinnesota

Why did he change the ministers story? It actually went like this:

First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me.


6 posted on 07/24/2006 10:59:52 PM PDT by xxyyxx
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To: xxyyxx

Dunno, but I've heard others change it in various ways as well...I wonder if people tend to forget the religious connotations when repeating it?


8 posted on 07/24/2006 11:01:47 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: xxyyxx

The New Living Version?


12 posted on 07/24/2006 11:21:33 PM PDT by jwalburg (It wasn't the Executive that Thomas Jefferson referred to as "the Despotic Branch.")
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To: xxyyxx
About the minister's story... See http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/niem.htm

Excerpt:
There are in fact several "correct" versions. Niemöller named different groups when he first coined the saying, probably in 1946, than when it was revived in the 1970s and he was asked about it.

The groups he mentioned in several 1946 speeches were (in order, see below): Communists Incurably sick Jews or Jehovah's Witnesses (depending on which speech) People in occupied countries.

In 1976 Niemöller was asked about the quotation in an interview. The Martin Niemoeller Foundation in Germany takes his 1976 answer to be definitive. In his long answer Niemoeller mentioned the following groups, and that he started using the quotation only shortly before [see: ]: Communists Trade Unions Social Democrats Jews (sort of).

I don't think that 1976 statement reflects what Niemöller had said years earlier. The first documented reference to the precise quotation that I know of is in the 1968 Congressional Record (see below). It was certainly varied by the person testifying (Howard Samuels), who referred to Niemöller as the originator. That person listed: Jews Catholics Industrialists/Trade Unions Protestant Church.

I think the 1968 citation ONLY proves that the quotation was said much before 1976, but not which groups Niemöller actually said. Niemöller would not have said the groups in that order, and he wouldn't have named the Catholics at all, in my opinion (as well as other scholars').
13 posted on 07/24/2006 11:24:13 PM PDT by DenverCossack
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To: xxyyxx

There are so many versions of this story my efforts at research have not turned up an unequivocal original.


25 posted on 07/25/2006 1:29:07 AM PDT by karnage
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