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(Field) Poll finds Californians' glass half full
San Diego Union - Tribune ^ | 7/25/06 | John Marelius

Posted on 07/25/2006 9:24:51 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

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1 posted on 07/25/2006 9:24:53 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Isn't the Field poll outrageously slanted to the left?


2 posted on 07/25/2006 9:27:27 AM PDT by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - Don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: CFC__VRWC

ummm,, I have heard that claim before.


3 posted on 07/25/2006 9:38:29 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge; FairOpinion; doodlelady
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger embarks from San Diego County on a campaign bus tour this morning...

Hmmm... still no mention of McClintock. Weren't they going to campaign on a "joint ticket"?

4 posted on 07/25/2006 10:26:36 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
“He hasn't even shored up the Democratic base yet,” Dowd said. “That's a difficult spot to be in. He's got to motivate and convince his own base before he gets to reach across to independents and Republicans.”

ROFL! Hey, Matt! That's funny!
Why not try the Schwarzenegger method? Abandon your base, adopt the platform of the other party, and reach across the aisle and take the votes from your opponent?

5 posted on 07/25/2006 10:30:03 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him.

Brtilliant strategy, if you want Angelides to win.


6 posted on 07/25/2006 10:43:14 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Isn't the Field poll outrageously slanted to the left?

I have the same question. Does anyone have any background on this polling organization?

7 posted on 07/25/2006 10:45:00 AM PDT by BJungNan
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To: calcowgirl
And speaking of McClintock:

Schwarzenegger, a prodigious fund-raiser, helped McClintock amass about $500,000 for his 2004 Senate race. This year, McClintock has been invited to meet-and-greets with well-heeled Schwarzenegger donors.

The governor could also help generate publicity for McClintock and earn him crossover appeal with independents and Democrats. If the governor solidly wins re-election, McClintock and other Republican candidates for statewide office could ride his coattails.

There's also a chance that opponents could try to use some of McClintock's views -- opposition to abortion, for example -- to tar Schwarzenegger as he tries to win over moderates and independents. But pro-choice Californians could always split the ticket.

CA: A rare pair of running mates (Shwarzenegger and McClintock)

8 posted on 07/25/2006 10:52:16 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion

Still quoting a 4 month old article, huh?

I thought this was going to be a "joint ticket"--a "joint campaign"?


9 posted on 07/25/2006 10:58:44 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion; Carry_Okie; ElkGroveDan; SierraWasp; Amerigomag; kellynla; NormsRevenge; Czar; ...
Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him. Brtilliant strategy, if you want Angelides to win.

Interesting! That is very telling, indeed.

Here you all said that a "joint ticket" was such a brilliant strategy. Now you are suggesting that Arnold would suffer from campaigning with McClintock. Can we assume ARnold has already abandoned Tom then? That would also explain the absence of an endorsement for Proposition 90, Eminent Domain (while endorsing the Dem backed Prop 84).

It also suggests the chances of Arnold and the CA GOP setting Tom up to win in 2010 are somewhere between slim and none.

Can't you just feel the love--the "unity"?

10 posted on 07/25/2006 11:09:30 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

why do the words partisan and twit come to mind?
lol


11 posted on 07/25/2006 11:13:56 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: calcowgirl

You are ignoring the obvious:

"There's also a chance that opponents could try to use some of McClintock's views -- opposition to abortion, for example -- to tar Schwarzenegger as he tries to win over moderates and independents. But pro-choice Californians could always split the ticket. "

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1582375/posts


I have just posted this on another thread, but it'a a good test for all those you pinged.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1671927/posts?page=21#21


OK. Here is a multiple choice question for you. Do you prefer a or b? You have to pick a or b. WHICH will you pick?

a. Arnold runs around campaigning for the Republican candidates in CA, even hopeless ones, like Mountjoy, it doesn't do the Republicans any good, Arnold ends up typecasting himself and loses to Angelides.

b. Arnold runs a more moderate campaigning, being careful to not give Angelides a chance to portray him as a "dreaded right winger", Arnold does fundraising to some R. candidates, WINS the election and other Republicans win too on his coattails.


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Well, let's here from everyone. Do you prefer a or b?


12 posted on 07/25/2006 11:15:50 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Neither one of them will get my vote, there isn't a whole lot of difference in them.

Both liberal democrats and the only real difference is one of them can't speak english.


13 posted on 07/25/2006 11:19:50 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: FairOpinion
Arnold runs around campaigning for the Republican candidates in CA, even hopeless ones, like Mountjoy,

And just what did Mountjoy do to you? Just can't resisit slamming conservatives eh? Unity. Yeah, right, only if it's a RINO.

b. Arnold runs a more moderate campaigning,

By proffering socialized medicine? You call that "moderate"? Need I remind you what the voters thought of HillaryCare?

14 posted on 07/25/2006 11:26:58 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I like to see Republicans run, who at least have a chance of winning.


15 posted on 07/25/2006 11:28:17 AM PDT by FairOpinion (Dem Foreign Policy: SURRENDER to our enemies. Real conservatives don't help Dems get elected.)
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To: FairOpinion
Sure, you want Arnold to trot out McClintock and run on "McClintock is conservative" to get 35% of the voters vote for him, if he is lucky, and 65% AGAINST him.

Actually the candidates in recent years who have gotten BELOW 35% are the RINO MODERATES you love so much. Tom Campbell comes to mind. McClintock has captured the highest percentage of any losing candidate. If you'd get your single-issue RINOs to just vote the party ticket, McClintock would have won Controller twice already.

16 posted on 07/25/2006 11:28:40 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (California bashers will be called out)
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To: FairOpinion

"I like to see Republicans run, who at least have a chance of winning."

The ones you support are not Republicans!


17 posted on 07/25/2006 11:30:24 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: FairOpinion
I like to see Republicans run, who at least have a chance of winning.

Oh, I see, we're back to "Tom can't win," only now it's "Dick can't win," the corollary being because 'moderate' Republicans like you will make sure of it. That's because you prefer leftists to conservatives. And then you have the unmitigated gall to ask, no DEMAND, that conservatives support your precious fascist?

Go ahead FO, make my day. Now that you supported Tom long enough to get Arnold nominated, you clearly intend to assure that the screw job starts again in earnest.

18 posted on 07/25/2006 11:33:38 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: FairOpinion

Your questions show that you have absolutely no faith have nothing but disdain for the Republican platform.

Here's what you are selling, FO:

Big spending, HUGE borrowing, free health clinics in schools, liberal judges, state land grabs, more gun regulation, bogus trade programs, prescription drug programs, global warming regulations, opposition to offshore drilling, envirowacko energy alternatives (as gas prices soar and blackouts are threatened).

I don't want any part of it.


19 posted on 07/25/2006 11:38:38 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: FairOpinion

Correction:

Your questions show that you have absolutely no faith in conservative philosophies and have nothing but disdain for the Republican platform.


20 posted on 07/25/2006 11:40:02 AM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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