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The Liberal Jesus (A plethora of new books is poring out explaining why Jesus is not a Republican)
The American Prowler ^ | 7/26/2006 | Mark Tooley

Posted on 07/25/2006 9:42:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: Moonman62
If anything, Jesus dealt or interacted with the " Political Individual " individually, person to person.
A good example is of Matthew, and the politician who climbed a tree to get a good view of Jesus coming down the road or the Roman commander who came to Jesus for need that his son were to be healed.
41 posted on 07/25/2006 10:43:33 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: mrsmel

Good post. Liberals seem to care only about themselves & their own interests.

Their fiscal policies are absolutely disastrous, and cause far more harm than good.





42 posted on 07/25/2006 10:44:24 PM PDT by proud_yank (If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free.)
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To: SuziQ

Yes


43 posted on 07/25/2006 10:44:41 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: TitansAFC
Most liberal theologians have doubts that Jesus even existed. They see Him as a kind of Superman or Batman that some people still believe in. They realize though, that most people have warm feelings for Jesus, respect for the church, and look to the church as a moral compass. So, they try to recreate him, like DC updated Superman and Batman. They replace Biblical teaching with their current utopians visions, and suddenly, there's no suffering Christ, there's a doe-eyed hippie with Breck girl hair.

For the current politicians, it's just another repackaging of the same pig. "Hey, if you were REALLY moral, you would support that poor pregnant girl who doesn't know who the father is! Then, she wouldn't NEED an abortion!"

Both conservatives and liberals too often decide what they believe, then look for justifications to explain why Jesus would agree with them. Jesus would have serious problems with both political parties.

44 posted on 07/25/2006 10:44:41 PM PDT by Richard Kimball
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To: pollyannaish
I agree with you wholeheartedly that Jesus is above politics. However, it is indeed true that liberals ARE at war with the Jesus Christ depicted by the Bible and want to "redesign" God in their own view. This war IS a war within the Church and has been going on since Paul took his first missionary journey.

The attacks come on the person of Jesus Christ, the existence of God and His providential intervention in this world, and the authority and reliability of the Bible.

C.S. Lewis wrote a book about this war entitled: "God in the Dock". Lewis contended that liberals were using humanistic criteria to question God rather than accepting Him at His word.


One of my family members recently presented me with a liberal book which contended that the "real" Jesus was the person depicted in James and that therefore the the Gospels; i.e., the first four books of the Bible, had been corrupted. This particular author came to this conclusion because Jesus was a member of a Jewish sect which would NEVER converse with sinners or disobey the Sabbath. Therefore, those accounts must have been made up!!

Of course, the Jesus of James is a Jesus insisting on works. Therefore, the conclusion is a denial a the basic tenet of Christianity: Our reconciliation with God is based solely on the Grace offered by God to sinners which was enabled by the shedding of the blood of Jesus Christ on the cross.

In the Gospels, Christ made it quite plain that the Gospel was being offered to the sinners, because the righteous would not accept the truth.

Clearly, the "righteous liberals", those who will not accept God on HIS terms, still will not accept the truth!


It was no accident that the pursuit of President Clinton resulted in the political left orchestrating a media campaign to justify "lying"; i.e., not adhering to the truth.

God is ALWAYS on the side of TRUTH.


So, while I certainly agree that Jesus Christ is far above politics, I feel I must point out that the war being fought in the Church parallels the political wars and it turns out that those who call themselves "liberals" seem to be on the same side for both.
45 posted on 07/25/2006 10:46:13 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: SuziQ

To the Democrats/Liberals, it is a means to a end, but, to the true follower of Jesus Christ, it's a way of living, and standard of life, Christianity is what you are or to be, not a title or label.


46 posted on 07/25/2006 10:47:43 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

The verse that pops into my mind is where he goes into the temple with his whip, overturning tables.


47 posted on 07/25/2006 10:52:46 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The issue of whether cheap labor makes America great should have been settled by the Civil War.)
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To: nickcarraway

Good dissection.

Man, those libs are really pushing the "Jesus was a leftie" angle.

As if people will forget the anti-moral psychos who make up the left.

(I doubt the Gay Pride parades are going to disappear anytime soon...)


48 posted on 07/25/2006 10:55:29 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: My2Cents

Hey! God's like me!


49 posted on 07/25/2006 10:56:04 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: Secret Agent Man
You are right on the mark my friend.
In the Bible, the Bible says, that God loves a cheerful giver, not grudgingly, but, from the heart.
Our giving must first come from the heart and our love for God, and our willingness to bless, and give, not under compulsion, or forced.
If you read Isaiah chapter 29, that is what God is trying to say to Israel, you may come to me with your lips, and your feast, rituals, but, not in your hearts do you love the Lord, it is a fake experience, religion.
By the way, most people have a misconception of the word COMPASSION.
( COM ) in the word compassion-means ( to come here to ) and passion , as in the passion of Christ:
means to suffer,
to have heart felt concern for someone else,
to be willing to help someone at all cost for the other person,
to be willing to suffer for or with that other person.
It has nothing to do with romance as this world thinks it does. ).
50 posted on 07/25/2006 10:58:55 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

I like the fact that the liberal atheists and other anti-Christians will have to buy a crate of Maalox to get through the next few campaign seasons, being forced to listen to all this "Jesus" business...

Hee, hee, hee, hee...


51 posted on 07/25/2006 11:08:40 PM PDT by stands2reason (ANAGRAM for the day: Socialist twaddle == Tact is disallowed)
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To: mrsmel
Correction:

( The left doesn't even give a fig about ( the Jews, the Nation of Israel, and is bent with their allies to destroy Israel ) Christians,Jesus,or Christianity-they've just finally realised a rich vein of voters and are trying to co-opt it. )
52 posted on 07/25/2006 11:10:19 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: Secret Agent Man
God, and therefore Jesus, never forced anyone to do anything against their will. Never forced sharing, never forced worship. Giving because you want to always ranks higher with God than 'forced' giving. That's why the state can never have genuine compassion for anyone, because in order to give to whoever it wants to, it has to take by force or threat of force, from those who have.

My sentiments exactly. The Religious Left is very heavily invested in liberation theology (sadly some "mainstream" religious authorities are, as well). Jesus told the Young Rich Man to give what he had to the poor, he didn't ask him to give it to the Romans or the Sanhedrin so they could redistribute it "fairly".

53 posted on 07/25/2006 11:12:33 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: My2Cents

jesus voting ping


54 posted on 07/25/2006 11:14:08 PM PDT by SideoutFred (Save us from the Looney Left)
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To: TitansAFC

>Actually, Liberals think Jesus was just an early Gandhi. That is, first and foremost, their understanding of Jesus Christ - uncondition pacifism, and unconditional tolerance - with a smidgen of socialism.<


Christians know that God is no respecter of men, and Christ Jesus is above any political party. He is a part of our wondrous triune God. He loves us so much that he came, lived His earthly life as an example to us, took on our sin and paid for it for us. He is the one constant we can depend upon. He is passionate about right and wrong. And as far as socialism is concerned, He said that if one doesn't work, one doesn't eat. That pretty much rules out His approval of Socialism, to my way of thinking. And today both major political parties just a front for Socialism.


55 posted on 07/25/2006 11:16:39 PM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: nickcarraway

How does this author justify the Dems continually siding with the ACLU, People for the American Way, Americans United for Separation of Church and State, the NEA, and other organizations that are continually trying to suppress expressions of Christianity in the public square? Advancing the kingsom should be #1 on the Christian's priority list, and these organizations are diametrically opposed to that. And the Dems side with these groups every time. Author, please explain your justification for that.


56 posted on 07/25/2006 11:16:42 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: mrsmel

Yup. And you know why the poor would always be with us? Human sinfulness. However, God takes something bad and turns it into something good. He uses us to minister to those who are poor, and in doing so, He works through us to show them He does care for them.


57 posted on 07/25/2006 11:21:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

It's possible, but not everyone who isn't saved is going to believe liberal politics. You can be unsaved and be a conservative, and not fall for liberals cloaking themselves in a veneer of religion.


58 posted on 07/25/2006 11:23:57 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man
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To: zarf
Dad was Jewish.

So was Jesus!
59 posted on 07/25/2006 11:29:35 PM PDT by cartoonistx
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To: Moonman62
Yup...
And who say's that Jesus was a pacifist or tolerant, to the contrary.
There is a difference of being angry ( in the flesh ) , and having a " Righteous anger " for what God see's a righteousness.
Jesus was zealous ( righteous anger ) about his fathers house, and the sickening, and disgust of them ( the money changers ) desecration and making it a den of thieves of it.
I am sure that Jesus would have forgiven them if they were to come to him and ask for forgiveness and repented of what they were doing, God's mercies are new everyday.
Just look at what the homosexuals are trying to do to Jerusalem in Israel.
They know what they are up to, and force it onto that land.
They want to have their gay pride parade and carnival, they are bent not to just flaunt their homosexuality, but, to flaunt it in the face of God, God's Holy city, God's Holy land and in the face of his people the Jews and Christians and if you oppose it, your some how a homophobic or in intolerant.
60 posted on 07/25/2006 11:29:48 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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